Posted on 04/24/2014 9:30:04 AM PDT by GIdget2004
“It’s been a long time since I’ve heard Beck use the phrase “Spooky Dude”.
As I said, I don’t listen to him anymore. Maybe it evolved to “stealthy master?”
Michael Medved finally weighed in on the Bundy affair. First time I’m aware of.
Let me guess - he can’t understand why the entire Bundy family hasn’t been put up against a wall and machine-gunned?
Sorry not remotely. BLM sending in snipers etc was over the top and needs challenged but to claim that this guy is an example of the oppressed masses is nonsense. He’s had decades and dozens of chance me to make his case and lost every one.
Decades of legal actions have all ruled against Bundy, and he’s such a nutter he claims the federal government doesn’t even exist.
This guy is no example of a runaway government , there is no doubt that the BLMs actions are beyond the pale, but you can’t dismiss the decades of illegal behavior by Bundy himself that lead to the point of confrontation to begin with.
Glenn Beck: “Useless, useless.”
Sorry I get the point, not the manipulation by some nutter trying to wrap himself in the American flag while at the same time saying the government that flag represents doesn’t even exist. This guys a faux martyr at best.
The fact you want to put Bundy in the same league as abolitionist, boston tea party folks and others shows just how out of reality the Bundyites are.
Interesting if wrong interpretation of the situation. Discover the correct one...the reality of the whole situation and you will be in a better position to discuss it.
You said he was wrong to disobey the law.
I pointed out three historical examples of lawbreakers.
What’s your distinction on which laws must be obeyed and which need not be?
Lynn Melton... I believe in smaller government, I love my guns, I hate Obama, I hate liberals, I’m anti abortion, pro America, God is awesome, pay your bills, everyone should pay their taxes, taxes are way too high, pro school vouchers, guard the borders, defend our country, it’s our duty to help the poor and downtrodden, however welfare is bleeding our country dry, and I looooove apple pie... And a bunch of other things that similarly represent my values! My values do not represent the defense of a rancher who has essentially been using land and not paying for it under agreement he signed! While I believe our government is bloated and power hungry, I do not believe these agents were sent to kill anyone, they were there to evict someone off of land that he has refused to pay for, and refused to move his cows off of! Ask anyone in law enforcement if they ever had to remove or evict people from premises before! Just because he shows up with a gun... Does not mean he is going in with excessive force, or going to shoot anyone! They will also tell you that if it’s known that if the person being evicted issued threats of use of force If the cops try to remove him... They will tell you that law enforcement will show up with overwhelming back up as a show of “shock and awe” this extra back up is to send a clear message to the person not to try anything! Understand? Bundy has a ranch that has 140? 160 acres? He has over 1000 head of cattle, this means I’d guess he had 15? maybe 20 ranch hands willing to help their boss defend the land he’s squatting on, his entire family lives on the ranch as well, then he had militia that joined the fight and neighbors and friends... So let’s say, in the beginning he only had 130 or so people by his side ready to engage in a “range war” that bundy threatened if enforcement tried to evict him, vs the 200 BLM agents and FBI. ! I’m sure they will tell you that with the threats of this magnitude with 130 people ready to fight... You’re gonna show up with plenty of back up to show that shock and awe, with 160 acres, you might even bring in a helicopter so you can have an aerial view of the land so you can direct your agents on the ground for their safety! This whole excessive force thing is really lame, and really makes me question your conservative values in bad mouthing the agents, but not questioning a rancher for not paying him million dollar fee/tax! You guys defending this guy like you are really makes it hard to point out John Kerry not paying his $400,000 tax on his boat he didn’t pay! Y’all really need to pull it together guys! You’re risking all our conservator values so you can be right about something you know is not! There will be a day when we will have an uprising and fight the government, but when that fight comes? I want to hold my head up and fight/live/die proudly! How bout you?
Dude, take your meds.
Not exactly, but it was almost as predictable. Today was Disagreement Day, and he only mentioned it because a caller did. He completely ignored the whole government overreach issue, which is the most important thing. Of course he thinks that federal land grabs are an over-exaggerated problem, and has ridiculed those who worry about it in the past. Medved grew up in the east even though he’s been in the west for a long time. I wonder if he realizes what a high percentage of land the federal government actually owns out here.
There may be your problem.
There's a story out there that the BLM changed the terms and conditions of the grazing conditions, in a manner unfavorable to him, so he refused to sign it, so the BLM wouldn't accept his lease payments.
Odds are if they had let him continue to use the land in the same manner he and his family had been using it for the preceding century, he would have continued to make the lease payments.
By the way, paragraphs and indentation make your point a lot easier to follow.
Just turned off Glenn Beck for the last time, he is dead to me now.
The issue is SLAVERY...not whether they are better off...and yes they are better off, at least many of them.
You guys want fun then listen to conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and tune into Glenn Beck’s radio show. They are going at it. Jones just wrote a hit piece on The Blaze slamming people from the channel and attacking the site. Both sides are at it. it is incredibly wild. Beck mentioned the site infowars by name on Thursday. Beck was at Liberty University friday and over his thoughts on Bundy again.
Dana Loesch is mad at everyone basically on her radio show. Hates those who propped up Cliven Bundy. She is mad at the left for deflecting from The BLM. She is mad at those saying now she can;t attack The BLM because of Bundy’s comments.
Fun Times.
You guys want fun then listen to conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and tune into Glenn Beck’s radio show. They are going at it. Jones just wrote a hit piece on The Blaze slamming people from the channel and attacking the site. Both sides are at it. it is incredibly wild. Beck mentioned the site infowars by name on Thursday. Beck was at Liberty University friday and over his thoughts on Bundy again.
Dana Loesch is mad at everyone basically on her radio show. Hates those who propped up Cliven Bundy. She is mad at the left for deflecting from The BLM. She is mad at those saying now she can’t attack The BLM because of Bundy’s comments.
Dana is also defending other people who are being attacked by The BLM that others are forgetting.
Bundy is an inarticulate rancher who strayed outside his comfort zone. Glenn Beck is an articula nutter prone to emotional outbursts similar to Boehner.
Our whole side has gone off the deep end. Just what Justina Pelleter needed. We should be focusing on her too and her plight. But instead we are now fighting among ourselves. All divide and conquer. The BlM is going after other ranchers too and we are mired in squabbles. It was bound to happen as many different elements have been part of the anti-establishment tea party groups.
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