Yes, but what basis did the National Journal guy have for using the term “overheard”? It wasn’t in the original Times article - that article just said that Bundy said it at a press conference.
I just did a YouTube and Google check and there is NO recording of Cliven Bundy saying any of the things quoted in the NYT article. The Bundy Ranch had tons of people there last Saturday because of the barbeque and yet we are expected to believe that none of them recorded what Bundy SUPPOSEDLY said?