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U.S. can't let Cliven Bundy win his range war: Nevada cattle rancher is not a man of principle...
The Los Angeles Times ^ | April 23, 2014 | The Editorial Board

Posted on 04/23/2014 11:14:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy is being portrayed by some as a man of principle, an iconoclast who should be admired for his willingness to stand up to the federal government. But in fact he's a petty scofflaw who seems to think that he has the right to pick and choose which rules must be obeyed.

Bundy is the cattleman who grazes his herd on federal land operated by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, but unlike more than 15,000 other ranchers, he refuses to pay the associated grazing fees. After 20 years of disagreements and court battles, the U.S. government began rounding up his cattle this month. The rancher and a group of armed supporters confronted the federal authorities, leading to a standoff; the authorities withdrew.

Bundy justifies his stingy and illegal behavior with a variety of claims. One is that this is a states' rights issue and that he doesn't "recognize" the federal government. Another is that his family grazed the land long before it came under the jurisdiction of the BLM.

Actually, more than 70% of the land in Nevada is federally owned, including the land in question; the state Constitution recognized that ownership years before Bundy's ancestors arrived, despite his assertion otherwise. (Various reports also have cast serious doubt on whether his family was grazing cattle on the land as long ago as he claims.) For that matter, if prior use of land were all that was needed to avoid paying a landlord, the land would revert back not to Bundy but to the control of Native Americans, who were on the Nevada land long before any white settlement of the area...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bunkerville; nevada; propertyrights
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He needs to win this battle so we can start the return of land to the States and strip the feds of all the land!


41 posted on 04/24/2014 1:08:45 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Little Pig
Well ... that's not quite accurate.

“I abide by all state laws. But I abide by almost zero federal laws.” - Cliven Bundy

In his Motion to Dismiss, Bundy said he is “a citizen of Nevada and not a citizen of a territory of the United States” and that Article IV of the U.S. Constitution “cannot be imposed” on him.

He makes some rather odd assertions.

Nonetheless, the BLM handled the dispute reprehensibly and got what they deserved - an armed response to tyranny.

42 posted on 04/24/2014 1:12:00 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: dalereed

And because First Amendment areas are unconstitutional.

And because a federal land-management agency must not be allowed to use military-style operations against American citizens.


43 posted on 04/24/2014 1:16:43 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
And because First Amendment areas are unconstitutional.

As someone so intelligently added to one of those "First Amendment Area" signs the BLM posted in the area, "is between Mexico, and Canada!" The Fedzilla needs to get wise that the Constitution applies to *ALL* of the US, not just where they post their little (spit) "permission signs". If they haven't the wit to understand that, then they haven't the wit to 'serve' us, and we can dispense with their dubious 'services' altogether...

the infowarrior

44 posted on 04/24/2014 2:06:43 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah! Who the hell does he think he is? Eric Holder?


45 posted on 04/24/2014 2:23:24 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"But in fact he's a petty scofflaw who seems to think that he has the right to pick and choose which rules must be obeyed."

This pretty well defines the Federal Government today in Obama's America. The Left never was very self-reflective, which is how they can tell utter lies without a crease or wrinkle.

46 posted on 04/24/2014 2:36:07 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The once great L.A. Times is a parrot for obammy and company just like msnbc, nbc, cbs the N.Y. Times etc.
Worthless rag.


47 posted on 04/24/2014 3:57:44 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The once great L.A. Times is a parrot for obammy and company just like msnbc, nbc, cbs the N.Y. Times etc.
Worthless rag.


48 posted on 04/24/2014 3:57:54 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Joe Boucher

“.....he’s a petty scofflaw who seems to think that he has the right to pick and choose which rules must be obeyed.”......

WOW!!! We have a president and attorney general just like that.

AMAZING!


49 posted on 04/24/2014 4:11:37 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Democrat_media

By that map, AK, ID, NV, OR and UT should not be states Since the government “owns” more than 50% of the state, it should be a Federal Protectorate. AZ, CA, WY and NM are close to being non-states.

Let’s see how state and local officials like that.


50 posted on 04/24/2014 4:20:20 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Like the illegal aliens you defend vociferously in your newspaper every day?

It does seem to be very hypocritical to insist the law be enforced in one case while suggesting it be ignored in another.

51 posted on 04/24/2014 4:20:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Democrat_media

I live in central Wisconsin where 1/3 of our county is federally owned land. They pay NO TAX on this land, the rest of us carry the burden. When/if any timber is harvested off that land, a VERY SMALL portion of the money taken in as result of the sale is paid to the local townships towards school tax and “penny’s” go to the county.
All roads through the federal lands are TOWN roads and maintained by the local tax payers. Being a very economically depressed area, the “feds” are NOT popular people around these parts either.


52 posted on 04/24/2014 4:21:22 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: BuckeyeTexan
In his Motion to Dismiss, Bundy said he is “a citizen of Nevada and not a citizen of a territory of the United States” and that Article IV of the U.S. Constitution “cannot be imposed” on him.

Then why all the U.S. flags around him in pictures?

53 posted on 04/24/2014 4:24:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not a man of principle, LASlimes Editorial Board?
As compared to say the traitorous, dishonest, serial-lying commie fraud in the White House?
I wish I was an LASlimes subscriber so I could cancel the rag.
54 posted on 04/24/2014 4:26:17 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Tzimisce

They are pimping very hard for California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Nevada, and Utah to be returned to Mexico.


55 posted on 04/24/2014 4:34:55 AM PDT by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

0bama and Holder??


56 posted on 04/24/2014 4:43:22 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: BuckeyeTexan

As a Private Corporation, does the BLM pay any State Tax for the Revenues they derive from said land???


57 posted on 04/24/2014 4:46:53 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, the leftist, Obama-shilling-and-fellating Journolists have spoken -I guess the issue is settled!


58 posted on 04/24/2014 4:49:24 AM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Why is the BLM a foreign owned Private Corporation??

Can Microsoft, Google, or IBM send armed Contractors to crash into your home and start tazing Civilians, and establish a perimeter that includes snipers??


59 posted on 04/24/2014 4:54:32 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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60 posted on 04/24/2014 4:56:24 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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