Posted on 04/22/2014 11:10:38 AM PDT by xzins
Instead woman already in the military ... will find themselves assigned to combat arms to meet a quota designed by a wideload Member of Congress whose most strenuous activity is the Pilates class she makes once a month.
Still, they wont be seeing the elephant overnight. Right now only a handful of the 203,000 women currently in the military can pass the physical for combat infantry or Marines. When faced with the reality that women cant pass the test, Congress and Pentagon paperpushers will change the test until they can pass.
Unfortunately, when you lower standards by definition you get substandard material. This is not to say women as a group are substandard.
The Marine Corps, which I was counting on to maintain standards, is showing signs of going wobbly. CNS News reports the Corps has delayed a requirement that female Marines do a minimum of three pullups. The postponement came after 55 percent of females in boot camp couldnt meet the standard. By comparison, only 1 percent of the males failed.
This test is important for the future of our militarys combat effectiveness because upper body strength is vital both in combat and on the front line where soldiers carry ammunition, lift the wounded, manhandle sandbags and tote weapons.
I suppose we could allow women to push a shopping cart into combat or issue spinner luggage. But that wont work either because after she fills the bag with shoes there wont be any room for equipment.
The deadline for degrading the combat arm is 2016 and as the date approaches, and the lack of qualified women becomes obvious enough for even a Democrat to see, thats when the pressure to change the test will be the most severe.
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The Soviets wasted military lives on a mass scale, and even chained soldiers to weapons and on aircraft, they didn’t care about the usefulness of females or how many lives using them cost, but they did end the practice as inefficient, after the war.
Communism changed it’s mind.
I think I dont like women in combat and for a lot of reasons. But doesnt the Israeli Army have women in combat?
I dont know.
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It is complicated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Israel_Defense_Forces
Israel, like the Soviets and various partisan and resistance organizations in WWII, and some other odds and historically, have had their backs to the wall such that putting women in the line was a reluctant measure to hold the line at all.
There are the examples of Deborah and Jael in the Bible, but theirs is an object lesson to wimpy males.
A culture that puts its women in the line without dire necessity is sick, IMO, and unworthy of perpetuation.
Agree on all points.
Don’t forget Boudica of the Iceni.
Trucks drivers can't change their own tires, they can't lift and move things, even large kitchen pots, and here for instance are shells that weigh about 93 pounds each, females are not strong, and being in the rear, or being in front doesn't change that.
I wonder what history tells us about fags in the military.
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A bit, and its not pretty. Here and there a cult of hyper-masculinity with homosexual undercurrents or overt display will emerge in this or that military culture. It usually marks some extreme personality cult or ideology. In a nutshell, they are disdainful of the host nation and feel superior towards it and remote from it. Usually it marks the terminal stages of a culture or subculture. There are not that many clear examples. It is an aberrant exception to the rule.
Do you know how badly you stink after a couple of days in the Bush. Then there is crotch rot, staph infections, jungle rot of the feet.
This was the easy part. Then a bunch of aholes decide to kill you and you have to keep a clear mind and follow orders with out question when you want to roll up in a ball and make it all go away.
But you can't because you owe your buds the same support that they would give you.
God help us.
It was a persuasive argument up to this point.
As a matter of POLICY, I think that women should be excluded from the armed forces for the most part, with a few exceptions and COMPLETELY from combat and most combat support roles, particularly when the armed forces are a small percentage of the total population, as is the case now.
The use of significant numbers of women should be reserved for large scale mobilization as was the case in WWII. Despitethe fact that over 400.000 members of the Armed Forces died in the line of duty, against what was probably the most formidable battlefield enemies that the US has ever fought, who regularly inflicted defeats upon our forces for much of the war NO ONE seiously considered putting women into combat units, even when the need to replace the staggering number of infantry casualties in NW Europe forced the experimentation with racially mixed infantry platoons. The population base is more than twice as large now as then and there would be no problem securing a sufficient number of qualified men with appropriate incentives for such a relatively small armed forces as we have today.
The Soviet example must also consider the 8 MILLION Soviet military dead, and even then the women at the front were largely circumscribed to medical personnel, select few aviation units and anti aircraft artillery. Infantry assault units were all but non existent.
The advantages for the armed forces, particularly the Army would be greater flexibility as to how personnel can be deployed in combat emergencies and other contingincies and a lesser logistical strain as involves clothing, barracks and housing, and innumerable other considerations that are exclusive to the maintenence of large numbers of women. I think morale and discipline would also be improved as well.
The courts have repeatedly ruled that the armed forces are exempted from many of the equal opportunity requirements of the civillian world, and for the very good and sufficient requirements that are unique to the armed forces. This contretemps is being propelled largely by the cultural marxist wing of gender equity feminism who wish for the placement of a leftist Chairwoman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The resultant detriment of the ability of the armed forces to fight plays no consideration in their calculus, other than as an peripheral side benefit.
I know that women have played a vital role during guerrilla, partisan warfare and sabatoge/espionage activity. But to deliberately employ them in ground combat units whose primary task is to close with, engage and destroy similar enemy units is the height of lunacy and madness given the effort required to identify the relative few who could qualify even if we ignore the potential detriments to morale and discipline.
This is sheer and utter madness akin to allowing open homosexuals to serve in the armed forces.
I had to write a paper on it once. In the few examples I could find, the correlation was strong. IMO the apathy or approval of open homosexuality in service were indicators of a dying or crumbling society rather than causes, but the correlation was there.
Spartan Empire after the Peloponnesian War
Theban Sacred Band
Late Alexandrian Empire
Rome at local levels (over its long course this problem cropped up but was tamped down; it sparked local insurrections in several instances)
A scattering of commanders from the 16th - 18th century
French Empire
Spanish Civil War (Republican)
Sturm Abteilung (very overt)
Schutzstaffel (veiled)
Great post.
A culture that puts women on birth control and denigrates motherhood, and the dignity of the marital star is sick and will end up putting them on the front line in battle anyway
Indeed.
Scripturally, faith is a precondition for salvation. Peter, though, spells out tests of real faith when he says to those on the Day of Pentecost: “Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins.”
Belief is the precondition, but it cannot be a belief that Jesus is a Hispanic baseball player in major league baseball.
A belief in the real Jesus will confront us with the holiness of Jesus and our own unworthiness. Our response will be repentance. It is not repentance to say, “Jesus you’re wrong about homosex; I’m keeping my homosex partner.”
A proper response for any sin is: “God says it’s destructive sin, and I believe God. I’m rejecting all sin and living my life in a way that says that.”
I agree with that. Something as simple as changing parts on some vehicles when a guy can hold it up to the right location with one hand and screw it back into place with the other, a female has to have an elevated jack OR a guy to hold it.
What difference does that make? A valuable jack is put in use for a lightweight job or 2 troops are required to do a one person job.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast (Eph 2:8-9).
There are no scriptural preconditions to coming to and receiving the Lord although man has a tendency to make up his own rules. Once we're saved it is not the law but grace that "teach[es] us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world" (Titus 2:12).
As you wrote “saved through faith”.
It’s got to be the real kind.
1 John 2:19 “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us: but `they went out’, that they might be made manifest that they all are not of us.”
A million different things, from digging a foxhole, quickly setting up a defensive position in a bombed out building with heavy timber and stones, opening a jar.
I thank God when I came to him nobody told me about all these rules because I knew I could never keep them. I didn't even know what faith was. I simply came to Jesus because I knew I needed him and he took me in BY GRACE and I was born again - many decades ago. Faith was involved but I didn't really know that at the time and it all came from God anyway as a gift, not something I did.
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