[Karl Spooner]

I didn't know he wasn't even there. All I've heard was that he was communicating with them and making the suggestion.

I found that video that I was referencing. Go to about 1:20 for Mack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvN3luheEe8

[Cyber Liberty]

That’s the video I saw. Why did Mack screw us like that?