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US Communists Shill for Russia Over Ukraine
Trevour Loudon ^ | 04/18/14 | Trevor Loudon

Posted on 04/19/2014 7:19:33 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

US Communists Shill for Russia Over Ukraine Submitted by Trevor on April 18, 2014 – 3:08 am EST

Brian Becker

Two groups have been most actively supporting “there is no such thing as an ex-Chekist,” Vladimir Putin’s naked aggression in the Ukraine.

They are Western communists, who hate the West and still see Russia as a force for socialism and anti-Americanism, and some naive Western “conservatives” like commentator Pat Buchanan and actor Steven Segal, who seem to believe that Comrade Putin is a closet Christian bent on defending Western values and saving Europe from the Islamic hordes. These naifs seem to have no idea that Mr. Putin’s KGB/FSB comrades have long manipulated those Islamic hordes against the West and have attacked our values at every opportunity for more than 90 years.

The communists must be laughing up their sleeves as they dupe self deluding “conservatives” like Buchanan and Segal into cheerleading their own destruction.

Here’s one such Western communist — Brian Becker of the Party for Socialism and Liberation.

Interviewed on Kremlin propaganda channel RT (formerly Russia Today), Comrade Becker does a splendid job of obscuring the truth and spreading lies and disinformation on Moscow’s behalf.

Link to youtube vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us2yUn30Xm8


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; communistpartyusa; communists; kremlin; putin; russia; sovietunion; trevorloudon; trevourloudon; ukrainecrisis; uscommunists
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To: ansel12

~It isn’t like Russia was conquered by atheist invaders from somewhere.~

And who are atheist invaders removing crosses in America?


141 posted on 04/19/2014 10:45:21 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: greene66
"Yes, it’s different. America was the prime force of good in the world, exporting freedom, democracy, capitalism, and such, during the Cold War years and even before. Now we promote homosex and degeneracy, via both our government and our popular culture. We are transitioning from a force of good to a force of evil. It’s obliterated the old Cold War dichotomy."

Well said.

142 posted on 04/19/2014 10:45:23 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Many of the Pro-Russian protestors in Crimea, for example, were holding Communist flags and holding up pictures of Stalin.”

I wouldn’t call it many, but there were some.

Given that Crimea was such a stronghold of the Soviet Military for so long, and everyday life was almost totally based on that, even for years after the fall, I don’t really find that surprising. The vast majority of the population was either part of, or worked for the Soviet military.

Take a look at Crimea on Google Earth. It is covered with closed and abandoned military bases, rocket bases, radar Stations, listening stations, missile sites, airfields, and naval sites.


143 posted on 04/19/2014 10:48:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: wetphoenix
IMO, we are closer to Nuclear Holocaust these days than ever during the Cold War.

Not in my opinion, in my opinion the scariest moment of the Cold war was the period of 1984 and 85, if you guys didn't move then, then you would lose a window of opportunity that you would not regain for at least a generation.

Since your Empire collapsed, that threat is gone for a long time.

144 posted on 04/19/2014 10:48:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: wetphoenix

You have got to be kidding, you compare our political problems to one of the most evil and corrupt nations in history, Russia?

Are you involved in American politics in campaigning and voting?


145 posted on 04/19/2014 10:51:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

~Not in my opinion, in my opinion the scariest moment of the Cold war was the period of 1984 and 85, if you guys didn’t move then, then you would lose a window of opportunity that you would not regain for at least a generation~

Which actually shows that noone was really interested in bringing a Nuclear Holocaust to reality.


146 posted on 04/19/2014 10:52:28 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

“in my opinion the scariest moment of the Cold war was the period of 1984 and 85,”

AMEN...
And I was right there, in the middle of it. The KAL Shoot Down was in Sept ‘83. I’d been on flight crew status about 4 weeks.


147 posted on 04/19/2014 11:00:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: wetphoenix

What????

Reagan cut off your window by pumping billion of dollars and a massive military buildup to ruin that timeline that I had predicted in 1979, and when I was connected with military intelligence in the 1980s, I found that I wasn’t alone in having come to that conclusion.

The 1984/1985 window was seen as when you guys would be at your peak, before our buildup would close the window.

Are you involved in American politics in campaigning and voting?

I know that you only signed up weeks ago, are you also a Russian, living in Russia?


148 posted on 04/19/2014 11:02:00 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Trevor Loudon is the man who broke the Communist story of Barack Obama's Van Jones. You will find many more names below, of very unfortunately important people and their conspiratorial and organizational doings, including those Mr. Loudon has just recently introduced to the world's defenders of freedom.

Who's the Communist?

149 posted on 04/19/2014 11:06:28 PM PDT by McGruff (You believe what your government tells you. Don't you?)
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To: ansel12

~You have got to be kidding, you compare our political problems to one of the most evil and corrupt nations in history, Russia?

Are you involved in American politics in campaigning and voting?~

I’m not comparing and not in politics.
US and Russia are obviously on a defferent steps of the ladder between tyranny and freedom and both are on the move.
Bottom line is Russia as far from tyranny as US from real freedom.
To make things worse, America doesn’t seems like heading in right direction.
As for Russia I have no idea, it’s policy is rather fragile in that department and their attitude mostly depends on economics which is heavily linked to geopolitics.
The larger Russian middle class and the stronger it’s ties to the West the further it is from tyranny and closer to God and freedom. And I strongly believe it corelates to American interest because prior to Communism and Cold War US and Russia were natural allies.
Do you know there was a Russian naval group based in NYC after Civil War to keep the British out from weakened US and not allow them to take over.
Too bad so many ‘conservatives’ on this thread hates Russia more than they love America and don’t wish any good to the Russians who were more pro-American than most of so-called allies just 20 years ago.


150 posted on 04/19/2014 11:12:03 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: ansel12

“Reagan cut off your window by pumping billion of dollars and a massive military buildup”

That was the visible part of it.

Reagan negotiating with the Saudi’s to flood the world with oil, dropping the price severely, played the biggest role of all. And he gets no credit for that.

That, along with the systemic and growing corruption within the Soviet system, brought it too it’s knees.

That it didn’t end up in a world war, is thanks as much to the efforts of Yuri Andropov, as it is to Reagan.

Andropov, as head of the KGB, saw the actual economic numbers, had traveled extensively, and knew what was coming. He knew that Russia couldn’t compete with the West any longer without significant structural changes, which many others on the Politburo opposed.

As Premier, he offered to end The Brezhnev Doctrine, and demilitarize the Western Soviet States. (needless to say, this wasn’t popular with the Politboru, or with Honecker)

And also remember that BOTH Gorbachev and Putin came from the Andropov camp. Gorbachev as an aide who Andropov recommended replace him as Chairman, Putin as part of the “Andropov Levy”, bringing in younger, new thinking as reformers into the KGB.


151 posted on 04/19/2014 11:18:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: wetphoenix

Welcome to freerepublic Russian friend, it is interesting that you just showed up to propagandize on a forum that has no obvious interest to you, outside of Soviet, sorry, Russian affairs.

Looking at your weeks old posting history, you seem to have narrow interests focused on justifying Russian operations to a conservative American political audience.

You seem pretty unique for a new freeper, and I do not mean that you are from another country, I mean the narrowness of your interest and it’s focus on justifying current Russian military operations.


152 posted on 04/19/2014 11:21:12 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Thank you for a warm welcome, ansel12, but I’m not propagandizing anything.
Not to say I’m not sick with all these anti-Russian hysterics around which actually has no ground behind.


153 posted on 04/19/2014 11:32:56 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

So you found freerepublic a few weeks ago, as the Russians are on the move, to overcome our veteran heavy objections to Russian aggression, or what you call “anti-Russian Hysterics”.

Tell us what led you to freerepublic, and why now?


154 posted on 04/19/2014 11:38:15 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Nifster

I agree. It’s shocking to me to hear so many otherwise solid conservatives acting like our principled opposition to Obama must translate into support for Putin. It’s so fundamentally wrong-headed that I cannot understand how they get there.


155 posted on 04/20/2014 12:05:35 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: ansel12

I’m interested in conservatism and I was actually lurking around for quite a long time, probably 10+ years already.


156 posted on 04/20/2014 12:05:56 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

Odd, it doesn’t show.

Your sign up and your posts don’t indicate any interest in American politics and the GOP, or the tea party, or conservatism, especially a decades worth of it, you know Bush, and the elections, and Palin and Ted Cruz, and Romney and McCain and the issues and struggles and Obama, etc.

Instead, it all seems to be a sign up to work on the perception of Russian military operations.


157 posted on 04/20/2014 12:14:46 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: McGruff

Obama, Van Jones, and a great many Democrats, have had direct links with communists or communist groups, being members of them, etc. Loudon was the one who broke the story on Van Jones, and he kept up his research. He has a very large database, so you can view it all on his website.


158 posted on 04/20/2014 12:17:33 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You make a very good and interesting point. Too many here seem to think Putin stands up for Christianity as if he stands for all Christians. Part of the deal is he supports the Russian Orthodox Church and they support his Russian chauvinism. They don’t criticize his stealing from the Russian people, which has made him one of the richest men in the world. It’s more like a criminal conspiracy that the gangster statesman Putin has pulled off than a sincere commitment to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.


159 posted on 04/20/2014 12:20:08 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: ansel12

You are free to think what you wish, but indeed I have interest in conservatism, much less to the GOP and McCain. I have sympathy to Tea Party overall, and I can’t disagree with Palin on domestic issues.
By the way, I like America thus I dislike the way it is developing right now and I want Russia to be more like America of the 1950s, not America to be moremlile a communist Russia of that era.


160 posted on 04/20/2014 12:22:17 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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