[Go Gordon]

Hate to say it but Americans have been asleep for a very long time,That's all I have been hearing for the last 15 yrs.wake up Americans and here are still trying to figure out what's going on.

Wasn't it Jefferson that said, with regard to democracy, a little blood in the street needed to happen every 20 years?

[WayneS]

No, I think that was Clemenza in the Godfather - and it was every 10 years.

Jefferson was a little more poetic:

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

;-)