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To: SeekAndFind

This WILL result in CWII insomuch as a war between states more than their people. The state’s ratifying this law are all part of the population centers near the nation’s coasts. The flyover folks (read: the better armed Americans) won’t stand for this crap.

I’m glad I don’t see my home state of Florida in the list.


3 posted on 04/16/2014 10:57:56 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I predict this crap will continue until the first GOP candidate wins in the popular vote and New York has to instruct their electors to vote accordingly. The jackass party will then go to court and find a judge to rule the law invalid.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 11:01:40 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: rarestia

“The flyover folks (read: the better armed Americans) won’t stand for this crap.”

The flyover folks won’t stand for 50 million babies being aborted.
The flyover folks won’t stand for government controlled healthcare.
The flyover folks won’t stand for federally mandated school curricula.
The flyover folks won’t stand for homosexual marriage.
The flyover folks won’t stand for private property to be seized by the government and given to other private entities for development (Kelo decision).
The flyover folks won’t stand for open borders.
The flyover folks won’t stand for Christian symbols to be removed from public spaces while Islam is celebrate in public spaces.
The flyover folks won’t stand for Islamic terrorists infiltrating the federal government.
The flyover folks won’t stand for social welfare benefits to be extended to people in the country illegally.
The flyover folks won’t stand for restrictions on free speech.
The flyover folks won’t stand for local police swat teams breaking down doors of people’s houses.
The flyover folks won’t stand for voter fraud.
The flyover folks won’t stand for money printing and currency debasement by the Federal Reserve.
The flyover folks won’t stand for their tax money to be used to bail out big banks or bankroll economically unsound green energy companies.
The flyover folks won’t stand for increased marginal tax rates.
The flyover folks won’t stand for eliminating the work requirement from welfare.
The flyover folks won’t stand for bureaucratic imposition of carbon limits resulting in the shutdown of coal fired power plants.
The flyover folks won’t stand for the federal government banning incandescent lighting, requiring engine ruining ethanol in their gasoline, eliminating phosphates from their laundry detergents, or limiting the amount of water their washing machines and toilets can use to the point they cannot perform their function.
The flyover folks won’t stand for . . .

Based on their track record to date the majority of the flyover folks will walk down to the collection points and turn in their guns when they are told to do so.


17 posted on 04/16/2014 11:13:23 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: rarestia

” The flyover folks (read: the better armed Americans) won’t stand for this crap.”

With the exception of the American revolution, all revolts have been the left against the government. The right is not likely to start a revolt. I don’t see anybody I know, all of whom are armed to the teeth, starting a shooting war. Who, exactly would you target? Your local deputy sheriffs? The local politicians? We have no reach to get at the people who are at fault and the fault is wide-spread and fairly thin.


42 posted on 04/16/2014 11:59:14 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Under the current system, the “flyover” states are politically irrelevant. That’s what “flyover” means.

The indefensible reality is that more than 99% of campaign attention was showered on voters in just ten states in 2012- and that in today’s political climate, the swing states have become increasingly fewer and fixed.

80% of the states and voters are ignored because of current state winner-take-all laws (not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, but later enacted by 48 states). They ensure that the candidates, after the conventions, will not reach out to about 80% of the states and their voters. Candidates have no reason to poll, visit, advertise, organize, campaign, or care about the voter concerns in the dozens of states where they are safely ahead or hopelessly behind.

Presidential candidates concentrate their attention on only a handful of closely divided “battleground” states and their voters. There is no incentive for them to bother to care about the majority of states where they are hopelessly behind or safely ahead to win.
10 of the original 13 states are ignored now.
Four out of five Americans were ignored in the 2012 presidential election. After being nominated, Obama visited just eight closely divided battleground states, and Romney visited only 10. These 10 states accounted for 98% of the $940 million spent on campaign advertising. They decided the election.
None of the 10 most rural states mattered, as usual.
About 80% of the country was ignored —including 24 of the 27 lowest population and medium-small states, and 13 medium and big states like CA, GA, NY, and TX.

80% of the states and people have been merely spectators to presidential elections. We have no influence. That’s more than 85 million voters, more than 200 million Americans, ignored. When and where voters are ignored, then so are the issues they care about most.

The number and population of battleground states is shrinking.

Policies important to the citizens of non-battleground states are not as highly prioritized as policies important to ‘battleground’ states when it comes to governing.

In Gallup polls since 1944, only about 20% of the public has supported the current system of awarding all of a state’s electoral votes to the presidential candidate who receives the most votes in each separate state (with about 70% opposed and about 10% undecided).
Support for a national popular vote is strong among Republicans, Democrats, and Independent voters, as well as every demographic group in virtually every state surveyed in recent polls
in recent or past closely divided Battleground states: CO – 68%, FL – 78%, IA —75%, MI – 73%, MO – 70%, NH – 69%, NV – 72%, NM– 76%, NC – 74%, OH – 70%, PA – 78%, VA – 74%, and WI – 71%;
in Small states (3 to 5 electoral votes): AK – 70%, DC – 76%, DE – 75%, ID – 77%, ME – 77%, MT – 72%, NE 74%, NH – 69%, NV – 72%, NM – 76%, OK – 81%, RI – 74%, SD – 71%, UT – 70%, VT – 75%, WV – 81%, and WY – 69%;
in Southern and Border states: AR – 80%, KY- 80%, MS – 77%, MO – 70%, NC – 74%, OK – 81%, SC – 71%, TN – 83%, VA – 74%, and WV – 81%; and
in other states polled: AZ – 67%, CA – 70%, CT – 74%, MA – 73%, MN – 75%, NY – 79%, OR – 76%, and WA – 77%.
Americans believe that the candidate who receives the most votes should win.

The bill has passed 33 state legislative chambers in 22 rural, small, medium, and large states with 250 electoral votes. The bill has been enacted by 11 jurisdictions with 165 electoral votes – 61% of the 270 necessary to go into effect.

NationalPopularVote


72 posted on 04/17/2014 2:52:59 PM PDT by mvymvy
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