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To: DManA

True. What’s that have to do with adults smoking pot?

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I was in the first generation of pot smokers at my high school back in 1970. It came through one summer. There was a big cultural change. Suddenly half the school kids were smoking pot.

I don’t know how it was in the 1990’s.

But these days the kids at my old high school are back to smoking pot again.

It did me no good in the 1970’s. It took me two decades to kick the stuff and beer and cigarettes and such. Those days are lost to me.

I regret the time I wasted on cheap thrills.

Pot will do the newest generation of pot smokers no good.

My desire to keep the laws firmly set against pot smoking is just a desire for younger folk not to make the same mistakes I made.

Do you draw the line of illegality at heroin? Or cocaine? Or LSD? Or Mescaline? Or crack? Or are those ok too.

This is an important question. Once you redraw the line in the sand. It make the new line even tougher to hold.

For example, the liberals have all but normalized homosexual marriage. Next up is polygamy. Are you ok with polygamy?


27 posted on 04/16/2014 10:26:33 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Point is, when you delegate this issue to the Federal Government citizens have no say in what will be legal and what won’t. So arguing which pallet of drugs citizens should be allowed to partake in is irrelevant. We don’t make that decision. Bureaucrats do.

If there is enough political pressure, yes heroine would be legalized. Alcohol might be made a prescription drug.

So arguing which pallet of drugs citizens should be allowed to partake in is irrelevant. We don’t make that decision. Bureaucrats do.

All I’m saying is we should keep this power to ourselves. The decisions should be made in our respective state legislatures.


29 posted on 04/16/2014 10:39:26 AM PDT by DManA
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To: ckilmer

>>>>It did me no good in the 1970’s. It took me two decades to kick the stuff and beer and cigarettes and such. Those days are lost to me.

I regret the time I wasted on cheap thrills.

Pot will do the newest generation of pot smokers no good.<<<<

Having been in the same neighborhood, I agree with your sentiments. And I witnessed the same changes you noticed in my small town in Connecticut circa 1973. I also regret my pot smoking period. I feel grateful to have gotten out as well as I have.

However, pot emerged despite stringent laws against it. The famous Rockerfeller laws in New York did not stop it. What is needed is strength of will and a change of attitude, such as what is happening with tobacco. The culture has to change. Of course, that ain’t happening with the current push towards legalization and relaxed standards for pot use. The predictable (and unpredictable) consequences will emerge to curse our descendants. Until then, though, those of us with sad experiences will have to pave the way for the eventual realization that the stuff is crap.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 11:18:13 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: ckilmer

Those days are lost to me.

Presumably what you were doing was illegal. Would your life have been better if you’d been caught, convicted, and spent time in a Federal or State penitentiary?


31 posted on 04/16/2014 11:25:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: ckilmer

“My desire to keep the laws firmly set against pot smoking is just a desire for younger folk not to make the same mistakes I made.”

Right. It’s for the children.
Because doesn’t every child need a good nanny?


40 posted on 04/16/2014 2:02:26 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: ckilmer

“just a desire to keep not to make the same mistakes I did.”

And another nanny stare busy body liberal reveals himself.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience”. — C. S. Lewis


56 posted on 06/14/2014 8:09:03 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: ckilmer
Those days are lost to me.

Wrong. You have convinced yourself that those days are lost to you. Those days BELONG TO YOU AND ALWAYS WILL. You may have spent those days doing something regrettable, but they still belong to you and YOU and you alone must use the tools God gave you to deal with that reality.

My desire to keep the laws firmly set against pot smoking is just a desire for younger folk not to make the same mistakes I made.

And thereby DENY those younger folks their God-given right to LEARN from their mistakes as YOU did, and as I did, and as MILLIONS of us did. Look pal, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. My struggles with drug addictions MADE ME STRONGER and CLOSER to God. It is MY job, not the Federal government's job and certainly not your job, to deal with temptation.

Just who in the hell are you to presume which trials and errors and lessons an individual should be able to undergo in life when it comes to giving in to or resisting temptation?

Comparing lack of Federal laws against pot and poker with Federal laws regarding homosexuality and polygamy, is comparing candy bars with pine trees. What government wants to do regarding homosexuality is to FORCE people to ACCOMODATE such pretend applications to "marriage." With pot and poker (I hate online gambling, by the way, absolutely despise it), no one is advocating using government to FORCE people to engage in it or even to accommodate it.

Look, if you want to whine and cry about the "lost days" of your youth, that's your problem, and I mean PROBLEM. It wasn't up to the Federal government to rescue you then, and it isn't up to the Federal government to rescue today's kids now. It is up to THEMSELVES, it always has been, and it always will be. With the Grace of God!

59 posted on 06/14/2014 8:43:25 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: ckilmer

I want ZERO of my tax dollars to go for enforcing “laws” which have NO Constitutional basis or legitimacy, and which turn our once-free Constitutional Republic into a nanny, jackbooted rule of man democracy. Please show me where, besides your burnt out mind, the authority for ANY of these nanny laws exists. (Quick hint: read the WHOLE founding documents including the Tenth Amendment and the DoI before responding). Statist laws such as you advocate are what started our slide into the mass we currently are in. If you want more of the same, INCLUDING more of Obummer, keep on this track.

By the way, that whole “consent of the governed” thing? That right there is your biggest stumbling block. NO ONE CAN CONSENT TO SUCH OUTRAGES AS ARE CREATED BY YOUR WAR ON DRUGS. They are clearly amongst the very sorts of things the Founders took up arms against, as an absolute violation of one of their dearest principles.


60 posted on 06/14/2014 7:03:07 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!F)
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To: ckilmer

“Those days are lost to me.”
- that’s your *personal* problem. Don’t put that on the public at large. Let people live their own lives as they see fit. Just because you want a federal government nanny to forcibly control what people choose to ingest ( be it alcohol, tobacco, or pot) since you have regrets about how you chose to live your own life, doesn’t mean the rest of us share your experience or your fascist guilt. Grow Up and mind your own affairs.


61 posted on 06/15/2014 5:43:04 PM PDT by FBD
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