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A HUGE development, apparently.

Still unconfirmed by anything other than a several tweets, yet.

1 posted on 04/16/2014 12:58:28 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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“A HUGE development, apparently.”

Likely another fake like the “US citizen” nonsense and Mi-8 shot down (yes, shot down, in Syria:).


2 posted on 04/16/2014 1:01:44 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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Another Tweet:

“OK, it seems the APCs may have been seized by pro-#Russia crowd rather than defecting per se.”

Ukrainians may have “Surrendered” the tanks to the unarmed crowd.

Just in from work, will check for more in the morning.

Another tweet just now:
Ukrainian APCs taken over by pro-russia “civilians” being driven from Kramatorsk to Slaviansk


3 posted on 04/16/2014 1:03:32 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Raniah Salloum 49m One of the six tanks of the Ukranian army that I just saw in Kramatorsk that switched sides. Now w Russian flag.
4 posted on 04/16/2014 1:07:01 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Another tweet. They are coming fast now. Russiain flag spotted on army armored vehicles in east Ukraine
5 posted on 04/16/2014 1:09:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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pro-Russian activists disarm the “National Guard” of Ukraine (Artemovsk city)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdH8OEpDY0k
You can see local police on side of “separatists”. Most of these people are too old and obviously non-military looking, contrary to claims of them being a Russian personnel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUm2AjU2Jfw
Amateur footage has apparently captured the moment pro-Russian activists in a Lada confronted a Ukrainian tank.

The car’s occupants pursue the tank across a field - purportedly in the Donetsk town of Sloviansk - and instruct its driver to “turn the engine off”.

Eventually, the tank driver shakes the hand of one of the crowd and switches the engine off.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 1:11:18 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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Yet another tweet: Breaking! German tv: Defected Ukrainian troops now fight under Russian flag
7 posted on 04/16/2014 1:11:52 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Strangely, when I hear of the troubles in Ukraine, I think about the U.S. with a growing sense of consternation.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 1:13:25 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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A BBC reporter is on the scene right now travelling with the convoy that you say defected.

He has a video of him reporting in front of the stopped convoy.

He has a video showing that the road is BLOCKED by a green van that was moved into the way.

He reports that the crowd is "curious not hostile".

One hour later, he reports: "Armed Pro Russians in ski masks and digital camouflage surround Ukrainian armoured vehicles in #kramatorsk. Crowd cheers."

An hour after that: "Stand off over - convoy has driven on"

His Twitter feed

13 posted on 04/16/2014 1:38:59 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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UK DAILY MAIL Now has an article up, with pics and video:

“Tanks and armoured personnel carriers occupied by pro-Russian insurgents and flying Russian flags have been seen entering cities in eastern Ukraine.

At least three were spotted driving through the eastern Ukraine city of Kramatorsk today, ridden by dozens of armed men in camouflage. Meanwhile there were reports of vehicles rolling into the city of Slovyansk, with the militias enthusiastically greeted at pro-Russian checkpoints.

The troops on those vehicles wore green camouflage uniforms, had automatic weapons and grenade launchers and at least one had the St. George ribbon attached to his uniform, which has become a symbol of the pro-Russian insurgency in eastern Ukraine.

One soldier, who identified himself only as Andrei, said the unit was part of the 25th brigade of Ukraine’s airborne forces and that they have switched to the side of the pro-Russian forces.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2605828/Tanks-bearing-Russian-flag-roll-cities-eastern-Ukraine-Vladimir-Putin-warns-country-brink-civil-war.html#ixzz2z2N25gbA
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16 posted on 04/16/2014 1:46:59 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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The truth is, we have no idea about the facts on the ground.

I suspect, people being what they are, that the number of residents of Ukraine (excluding Galicia and Volhynia) who will welcome the tanks is not inconsiderable.

We shall soon see.


26 posted on 04/16/2014 4:04:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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ROTFL!!! UKRAINE FAKE OUT!!!
The Apcs with Russian flags in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk went to Ukrainian military to penetrate in the part controlled by the separatists-Sobolev On APCs with Russian flags in Kramatorsk of Donetsk region slavyansk moved disguised Ukrainian military to infiltrate the part controlled by the armed separatists, said acting head of the faction of the “Batkivshchyna” Sergey Sobolev.

“It was an open statement. This is OUR ARMED UNITS Used guerrilla approach to ENTERING DIRECTLY into the parts that are currently controlled by the MILITARY FORCES OF RUSSIAN FEDERATION and the SEPARATISTS which THEY FUND, “said s. Sobolev at a briefing on Wednesday.

“I think this event will soon be known, literally, for an hour or three, and you’ll realize that this is, in fact, was a breakthrough, which thus ensured our units,” he added.

According to Sobolev, the official, which gave the acting Defense Minister.
http://interfax.com.ua/news/general/200966.html


29 posted on 04/16/2014 4:16:07 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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There is precedent for this.

When asked how many Ukrainian troops had defected to the Russian Armed Forces, Rozmaznin responded: “About fifty percent.”

Ukrainian military units are expected to depart Crimea through the town of Krasnoperekopsk on the Perekop Isthmus and the town of Chonhar in Kherson region.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2014/03/24/Ukraine-negotiating-troop-withdrawal-from-Crimea/5181395677491/

46 posted on 04/16/2014 4:47:38 AM PDT by McGruff
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Some of the Ukrainian soldiers are Russian heritage.


56 posted on 04/16/2014 5:34:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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Why is this happening?

One reason!

Barrack Obama = Arthur Neville Chamberlain

They are both best known for their appeasement foreign policy.

Chamberlain’s empty suit policy ended in World War II.

Will Obama’s end in World War III?


100 posted on 04/16/2014 8:29:20 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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The Maidan regime cannot even count on the loyalty of the army. It was told to open fire on armed terrorists but instead encountered civilians. It has no legitimacy to conduct any kind of crackdown. Fortunately the Ukrainian army wants no part of this “operation.”

This is exactly like the “operation” the Communist coup regime ordered in 1991 in Russia. Army and police units would not obey orders to open fire on the people. It collapsed within a fortnight and the rest as they say, was history. Again the crisis in Ukraine has nothing and has everything to do with Russia. Putin does not even need to lift a finger; events in Ukraine are going in his direction.

For that, the “leaders” in Kiev have only themselves to blame.


101 posted on 04/16/2014 8:47:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“Israel and Russia are getting along. Have the neocons noticed?

http://theweek.com/article/index/260033/israel-and-russia-are-getting-along-have-theneocons-noticed


105 posted on 04/16/2014 9:25:47 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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