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To: katwoman5779
"Insurrection is just what the government wants. Then it will have no choice but to use force. It will be the fault of the insurrectionists. Beck is right. The fight needs to be an intellectual fight. The people cannot win a fight with force. And the government know this."

I think one of the goals of the left is to deliberately provoke right-wing violence through their incremental subversion of the Constitution and civil liberties. The cutting edge of left-wing activism right now is the gay rights movement because they think they can isolate Christians from the rest of society, particularly moderate independents who aren't particularly for gay marriage but are not adamantly against it. The left is coming close to overplaying its hand on this issue.

Which brings me to the Bundy ranch problem. Here, it is the right that is overplaying its hand and making a poster boy of a guy who cannot be portrayed as an unambiguously innocent victim. Even many on this thread concede he has broken the law, so why make him our cause celebre?

As for the government's show of force, I think THAT - not Bundy in particular - is the issue we should focus on: the increasing tendency of local, state, and federal law enforcement to turn everything into a SWAT exercise with spooky overkill, a show of force grossly inappropriate to the threat. Average Americans CAN identify with that, but not if the government is confronted with an armed civilian posse which might make that show of force seem legitimate.

And I am not saying that the day for an armed civilian posse will never come, but that now is not the time.
77 posted on 04/15/2014 1:15:07 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
Even many on this thread concede he has broken the law, so why make him our cause celebre?

Because it is an unjust law. The land belongs to the PEOPLE. The BLM wants a fee for grazing. It costs the people NOTHING to allow his cattle to graze on the land his ancestors' cattle grazed for over a hundred years.

The grazing fees will go into that cauldron of waste and fraud in Washington D.C. Starve the beast.

175 posted on 04/15/2014 3:41:29 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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