Posted on 04/15/2014 10:41:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
Despite much diplomatic effort, the situation in Ukraine worsens. A coordinated Russian campaign, including an invasion threat, special operations destabilization in eastern Ukraine patterned on the Crimea model, and warnings of gas cutoffs document ever more clearly Vladimir Putin’s aim to cripple the Ukrainian government and control much or even all of this strategically vital European country.
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No, a thousand times no. Why should one American soldier die for UKRAINE independence? Let the UKRAINE people die for their own independence. I understand, the Russians, under Stalin killed more Ukrainians than Hitler ever did. And I also understand that the Russians populated the Ukraine area with Russians. Pretty soon there will be no more Ukrainians in the Ukraine, and it will be populated by Russians. Then there won’t be any more Ukrainian fight for “FREEDOM”. But that’s not our business.
plus stay out of the wars of others. We've been at war for 100 years and we have to borrow money from China to get by.
Yup. . .and the Big Zero will be faced with disaster when the first American troops are hurt because that mama on that farm in Iowa, she will call B*llSh*t on any military intervention when the Big Zero can’t explain WHY American troops (re: her son) is dying in defense of. . . what US national security interest (http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/apj01/spr01/vorspr01.html)
Well, if you would have taken the time to read my posts, you would have read that I was against sending troops to Ukraine.
Indeed. Agree.
My Post 43 explains my position as influenced by a short ‘think piece’ published back in the 90’s.
Of course you do. But it's about as meaningful to criticize people who aren't paid to fight and favor a more assertive stance vis-a-vis Russia as cowards as it would be to criticize them as serial killers or child molesters. It's orthogonal to the point. The military is a tool funded and employed by the people. It is not for the instrument of government policy to call the citizens who fund it cowards or any other epithet that comes to mind.
No, absolutely not, but the writer of this article, “James Jeffrey”, is free to go if he feels so strongly about it.
We should help make sure that if Russia actually invades the Ukrainians aren't without the means to resist, but we shouldn't send troops or advisers for that matter. There are plenty of people in NATO who can drive to the Ukraine and teach them how to use US equipment.
I say send the BLM. :-)
Having once been property of he USMC I can tell you this, you are dead wrong on that count. It's another case of infantile theory as opposed to hard reality.
The military is a tool funded by the people and employed by the politicians and the bureaucrats they appoint. The Politicians and the people are definitely not one and the same. The last time anyone could even pretend they were one and the same was WWII and the fiction was falling apart even then.
Had the people employed the military in Vietnam, for example, the war would have been over in about two years and there would be a free, democratically elected, government running a united Vietnam as we speak.
As for trying to conquer the US by ideological means, a ideological nation has been making the most progress in that in doing so for decades. What is past to another enlightened nation is present to US.
Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him. They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. (Hosea 8:3-4)
I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. (Hosea 8:12)
YES! Send over a “Rainbow” division. The sheer volume of the screams would stop the Roosians in their tracks!
I have had my fill of losing American lives based on the “domino effect”. No mas, No mas! To hell with those countries that do not prepare.
Don’t care enough to do anything, the Ukraine is not a NATO member.
Fine. Go poke the bear. No crying from you when radioactive gravel from NYC is raining down on Pennsylvania.
oh ya! Send the IRS, BLM, Congress, Whitehouse, with DHS and DEA and ATF for backup.
Righto righto righto. All those people who were screaming at Valery Gergiev in front of Carnegie Hall last Friday and telling him to get out of New York. Send them.
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