Bush draws boos from conservatives

The Hill ^ | April 12, 2014 | Alexandra Jaffe

[kingattax]

A mention of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R), a potential 2016 presidential contender, brought boos from a conservative crowd in New Hampshire on Saturday.

Speaking at the New Hampshire Freedom Summit, a gathering of conservative activists and figures organized by Americans for Prosperity and Citizens United, billionaire Donald Trump said Bush’s recent comments on immigrants coming to the U.S. as an “act of love” were “out there.”

“You know, I heard Jeb Bush the other day,” he said, with quiet boos and angry murmurs erupting from the crowd at the mention of Bush’s name.

[dragnet2]

An act of love...

Bet his good friend smelled like a wet goat.

[swpa_mom]

wow, a personal attack from someone on the premiere conservative website, all because I’m asking the name of the perfect conservative candidate.....

The fact remains, all of you attacking Bush or any other republican out there are playing the ‘victim’. I don’t blame you, Obama and his gang of liberals have convinced you that you MUST be the victim of something, so here you are, the ‘victim’ of the eeeeeeeeeeeevil “GOPe”.

Mitt Romney would have made a marvelous president. But, it’s better that we have Obama, right? It’s also better that Hillary wins the White House in 2016 rather than a someone who’s not pure for you. Right? I suspect that I will see a ton of name calling from the most frequent posters here, “x” isn’t conservative enough!!!!! Don’t vote for “X”. I will continue to point out that a presidential election is between two candidates. Not between two candidates and one that doesn’t exist.

So, if you would rather do the name calling bit here on the premiere conservative website instead of working for that perfect candidate out there, by all means, go for it.

[SpeakerToAnimals]

If Ted Cruz and Mike Lee were the GOP I would still be a republican. Every freedom loving American is a victim of the republican evils I listed upthread. Your party hates the American way of life.

[SpeakerToAnimals]

all because I’m asking the name of the perfect conservative candidate...

Stop with the "perfect" talking point. There is a simple test. Does the candidate have a track record of moving the political football toward the conservative goalpost? Sarah Palin has a great record of this. Newt Gingrich too.

As for Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, they talk the talk. They appear to be the type capable of moving the ball the right way. Rubio appeared to be of this type too. None of the three has a track record yet.

McCain has a record of fighting to move the ball to the progressive goalpost. Ditto both Bushes, Romney , Dole and all the other losers. There are none so blind as those that refuse to see.

[swpa_mom]

I hate to break it to you, but here on the premiere conservative website, the notion of Sarah Palin being a good conservative is OFTEN met with resistance. Newt as well. A taken out of context quote will quickly appear as “proof” of their liberalism.

I’m not going to stop anything. I think this country is a hot mess. Obama convinced the mush brained yewt that he was going to rob from the rich to give to them and meanwhile, the republicans decided that it was cool to be the victim and the circular firing squad commenced.

You have the primaries to battle for your candidate, whoever that is. AFTER the primaries and the nominee is selected if I hear this nonsense that “I’m not going to vote for X because X isn’t conservative enough”......well, it’s just ridiculous.

In 2012, you had two choices. Obama or Romney. If you “stayed home” because Romney wasn’t your perfect candidate, you supported Obama. Period. In 2016, you will have two choices, most likely Hillary and the republican. There will be no viable third party candidate, no matter how dreamy that sounds. So, buckle up and vote. Staying home to be the “victim” is the lazy way out.

[SpeakerToAnimals]

I am a libertarian. The republicans do not own my vote. They may earn it, or not. In 2012 I had an excellent choice, Gary Johnson. His track record as a two term governor, vetoing 746 bills, is just what the country needed.

Do not tell me I supported Obama. Them's fightin words. I supported Gary Johnson. If my choice offends you that is too bad for you.

[Theodore R.]

I didn’t know the original George Herbert Walker was Democrat. I’m pretty sure GHWB is a lifelong “Republican”, even if a sometimes non-practicing one.

[Wallace T.]

The whole political game is fixed, and both parties represent little difference on the national level. No Republican since Warren Harding ever significantly decreased the burden of government on peoples’ lives. Even Reagan did not significantly shrink the size of the Federal leviathan, although in his defense, his desire to defeat international Communism required some compromises with the Democrats who controlled the House for both terms of his presidency. Unless the Republicans nominate someone who will make a difference, say like Ted Cruz, a GOP Presidential win in 2016 will only slow down, and not stop, the slide toward statism and socialism.

The precedent was set by Eisenhower, who decided not to pursue repeal of the Roosevelt and Truman social legislation. His vice president, Nixon, did likewise with respect to Johnson's Great Society legislation when it was his turn to be President. Ditto for the Bushes and even Reagan. There is no reason to believe that a Jeb Bush or a Ryan would be any different from their GOP predecessors should either one of them, or any other RINOs, defeat the Democrat nominee.

[Theodore R.]

Still, as far as your national media is concerned only votes for “the” two candidates “count”. One was either “for” Obama or “for” Romney. Nothing else was noticed.

[Theodore R.]

You are so right. I thought I read that Dwight D. Eisenhower had never before voted Republican until 1952! Seems like he did not vote at all most of the preceding time

[PieterCasparzen]

If he was a Democrat, and just voted, once each election, for Democrats, he would have had no real effect on government.

It’s the work behind the scenes that is off the charts in the effects it had.

[swpa_mom]

Well, since you are a libertarian, you don’t have a say in many state’s primaries. Your candidate won’t even be of consequence in the 2016 election, other than to serve as fodder for the posters here on the premiere conservative website to attack the republican nominee.

Good Luck electing a libertarian to the White House.

[Pelham]

“wow, a personal attack from someone on the premiere conservative website,”

Aww, you mean you’re a “victim” now?

What a pity. You were doing such a good job at finding all of the posters on this thread playing the victim and then suddenly... you’re a victim. People can be so mean to you. Group hug for swpa_mom!!

Here’s a clue for you: this is a conservative forum and not the GOP rah-rah site that you are looking for. People here are inclined to say things that will greatly offend GOP establishment groupies.

So while you get all dreamy over Jeb Bush and Karl Rove and Mitt Romney and all the other boys whose posters you have on the wall, that’s not likely to be a widely shared view around here.

You’re going to have to toughen up! It’s going to be like when all the mean kids insulted your favorite boy band and you had to defend them! I know you can do it.

[swpa_mom]

If the political game is “fixed”, are you saying that Ted Cruz is the ONLY one not in on the fix? I admire the heck out of Ted Cruz and I think he would make a terrific president.

Are you going to help him raise the funds necessary to fend off the liberal media and big money elites on the left? What if Ted Cruz doesn’t run, will you claim to be yet another victim of the eeeeeeeeevil “GOPe”? (whatever that is)

Here on the premiere conservative website, the thought process among many frequent posters is to attack anyone who’s not.....their choice. “I’m not gonna vote for X if he/she is the nominee, not good enough!”

It’s so easy to be the victim, isn’t it? Obama has taught you well.

[ek_hornbeck]

he precedent was set by Eisenhower, who decided not to pursue repeal of the Roosevelt and Truman social legislation. His vice president, Nixon, did likewise with respect to Johnson's Great Society legislation when it was his turn to be President. Ditto for the Bushes and even Reagan. There is no reason to believe that a Jeb Bush or a Ryan would be any different from their GOP predecessors should either one of them, or any other RINOs, defeat the Democrat nominee.

Nixon went even further than that. Rather than just passively failing to oppose the creeping welfare state (as was the case with Eisenhower), he actually built upon LBJ's "Great Society" foundation and signed even more extensive programs into law. Much as Bush II did with many Clinton-era programs.

[Pelham]

“Nixon went even further than that. Rather than just passively failing to oppose the creeping welfare state (as was the case with Eisenhower), he actually built upon LBJ’s “Great Society” foundation and signed even more extensive programs into law. Much as Bush II did with many Clinton-era programs. “

A good point which many don’t know.

[Wallace T.]

,Rand Paul is a good choice as well, although I am not convinced he has walked away entirely from his father's pacifistic views on foreign affairs. I have reservations about Marco Rubio on immigration matters, but he is sound overall. So Cruz is not the only choice out there, though he is the best one.

But we cannot play the GOP-e vs. Democrat game ad infinitum. The conservatives in the Republican Party must focus on one candidate to overcome the moderates in the party. Their successes in Presidential primaries from 1988 onward have been predicated on their focus on a single candidate against a multiple field of conservatives. Last time around, Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, and Herman Cain did not have a prayer of winning, but they stayed in the primary contention long enough to prevent a coalescence around a single candidate to oppose Romney. Ditto for 2008, 2000, 1996, 1992, and 1988. Since 1940, there have only been two conservative wins in the GOP presidential nomination process: Goldwater and Reagan. In both cases, the conservatives were united, and the moderates divided.

[Eddie01]

The rabid hateful bushbots destroyed the credibility of the conservative opposition to big government.

The tools worshipped him instead of opposing his drunken-sailor spending.

You nailed that like a split hog.

[swpa_mom]

What a snarky post.

Not that I’m surprised. You can skip the group hug, thank you, anyhow. Hugs I receive from my family and friends are more than sufficient.

I have to chuckle at all of the assumptions made by the most frequent posters here on the premiere conservative website. Let me make something abundantly clear to you. In 2016, I will vote for the republican nominee. Oh, you can skip the “what if it’s ??”. Maybe I’m just well aware that this country is a hot mess and another liberal administration won’t help matters at all.

I am also chuckling at you claiming I am “dreamy” for certain people. Ahhh, this old lady doesn’t really much care what a group of circular firing squad “victims” say to her. Flame away. I’m going to support and enthusiastically vote for the republican nominee in 2016.

You can keep on typing about how that yet to be named person isn’t conservative enough for you and therefore, you’ll stay home to teach the “GOPe” (whatever that is) a lesson!

Waaah.

Really. How would I put it if I happened to be 40 years younger.......ah yes, stop being such a jagoff.

Oh, and by the way, my favorite “boy band” happens to be led by two fine gentlemen who are even older than me!

[Pelham]

“Let me make something abundantly clear to you. In 2016, I will vote for the Republican nominee”

I have no doubt that your commitment to the GOP is absolute and without reservation.

There can be no Republican too far to the Left for you to fail to vote for the nominee. And that’s how the GOPe likes it.

But I noticed another FR thread that requires your attention. Snarky conservative victims are insulting the GOP over here and they need you to set them straight:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3144840/posts