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To: Grzegorz 246

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Wall Street bailed out the failing Russian revolution in its early days. Under the guise of a “Red Cross” mission, millions in hard currency were brought in to sustain the effort. Wall Street pooled its interests in the American International Corporation, headquartered at 120 Broadway, and thus moved to have the Tsar-less Russia as a completely captive market. The infamous 5-year plans were conceived by international finance, not communist bureaucrats. Ford even built a plant at Gorky in the early 1930’s.

Communism was invented by UK globalists who first conceived of trying to set up completely controlled towns that doubled as manufacturing plants where people would live and work like hamsters.

The UK-based globalists, and their counterparts on the Continent and in the US, hated monarchs, especially the Tsar, as they could not get them to give them enough control over banking, money and business operations. The UK bent on over completely backwards, and let them run the show. Through the UK government, for example, they ran India as an enormous business which they carried on with the sovereignty of a government. When their business eventually started incurring losses, they had the political clout to transfer the risk to the UK taxpayer.

My point is that globalists have always been pulling strings behind BOTH the Western governments AND the USSR/Russian governments since 1917.

Does this make Russian politicians honest ? Obviously not.

What I’m advocating is an INDEPENDENT Ukraine.

Globalism keeps stirring up the issue to get people to back Ukraine joining the EU.

They set up a straw man argument that the only alternative is to join Russia.

They hate the idea of an independent Ukraine.

The globalists do not want independent countries. They want them to belong to international organizations. This makes it easy for globalists to override national governments and get anything they want in the way of laws and tax avoidance.

Some yahoo wrote an article posted today on FR that posed the question of Canada and the US merging.

Why can’t people supposedly advocating for a “free republic” get the hint when they are touching on the idea of losing national sovereignty ?


28 posted on 04/12/2014 3:00:55 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen; Grzegorz 246

Lenin’s New Economic Policy was designed to invite gullible western investment, which he described as buying (or selling?) the rope from the west that Russia would use to “hang them.” This was accomplished through disinformation efforts to convince the west that Communism in Russia was collapsing, and they used false-fronts, such as the Monarchist movement, to do so, having alleged anti-Communists make contacts with the west, discourage western aggression, and to encourage the west to build up Russia’s infrastructure on the vain hope that doing so would make the collapse of communism go faster.

All of this, of course, was a sham.


30 posted on 04/12/2014 3:08:46 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
What I’m advocating is an INDEPENDENT Ukraine.

If I was in Ukraine I would be anti Putin, anti EU and pro NATO.

31 posted on 04/12/2014 3:08:52 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: PieterCasparzen
Nice rant Pieter.

The folks in Eastern Ukraine have watched the US/EU backed radicals overthrow a democratically elected President and they're fed up with all the Western interference in their lives.

They're going to decide for themselves how they want to be governed, and if the radicals in Kiev don't like it, they'll be dealt with accordingly.

38 posted on 04/12/2014 4:49:58 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: PieterCasparzen
“Communism was invented by UK globalists”

Sorry to burst your bubble but had Lenin ended up in Denmark and convinced them to go commie, their way to spread communism would have been issuing rainbow postcards with “join the revolution” printed on it. Russians turned it into the most genocidal system in the history of mankind because they are barbarian, collectivistic, expansionistic bunch of Mongoloids. In the end, they invade and kill their neighbors as well as their own people, no matter which system they use.

“My point is that globalists have always been pulling strings behind BOTH the Western governments AND the USSR/Russian governments since 1917.”

Yep. Damn Rothschilds...

“What I’m advocating is an INDEPENDENT Ukraine.”

Sure you do.

39 posted on 04/12/2014 7:11:04 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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