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To: TigersEye

“Spoken like a true Progressive. What do grazing fees accomplish other than raising the price of beef? The BLM doesn’t use if for land management anymore. No one owes anything to the “US taxpayer.”

You might want to learn a little US history. User fees on public property have been around since the Republic was founded in 1787. They are much fairer than income taxes since if you don’t use, you don’t pay.

If you think anybody can use US taxpayer property however they want, whenever they want at no cost, then you speak like a true Anarchist.


53 posted on 04/12/2014 12:10:37 PM PDT by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: XRdsRev

And youmight want to learn a little Nevada/BLM history before going off on this particular subject. you will find how those ‘fees’ were and are weaponized to drive people off public lands.

Learn or not. your choice. But history is what it is.


56 posted on 04/12/2014 12:14:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: XRdsRev
User fees on public property have been around since the Republic was founded in 1787.

Link please.

64 posted on 04/12/2014 12:21:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: XRdsRev

“You might want to learn a little US history”

Yes, you should. And you might want to go back further and “review” how the Federal Government’s extortion plan garnered them 85% of Nevada “in exchange” for statehood. This land was a “taking” by the Feds and it needs to be returned to the citizens of each state from which they took it. Right now, Nevada would do a whole lot better being an “independent” state. Just look at what “bribing the Feds” has gotten them, and for that matter all the rest of the Western States as well. These fed bastards “own” more than half of California! Go look at a map that shows their “ownership” state by state. They need to be “compelled” to return what they stole.


65 posted on 04/12/2014 12:24:23 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: XRdsRev
*UPDATE: Those who say Bundy is a “deadbeat” are making inaccurate claims. Bundy has in fact paid fees to Clark County, Nevada in an arrangement pre-dating the BLM. The BLM arrived much later, changed the details of the setup without consulting with Bundy — or any other rancher — and then began systematically driving out cattle and ranchers. Bundy refused to pay BLM, especially after they demanded he reduce his heard’s head count down to a level that would not sustain his ranch. Bundy OWNS the water and forage rights to this land. He paid for these rights. He built fences, established water ways, and constructed roads with his own money, with the approval of Nevada and BLM. When BLM started using his fees to run him off the land and harassing him, he ceased paying. So should BLM reimburse him for managing the land and for the confiscation of his water and forage rights?

http://danaloeschradio.com/the-real-story-of-the-bundy-ranch/

96 posted on 04/12/2014 2:10:36 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: XRdsRev
If you think anybody can use US taxpayer property however they want


Go away boy,
you bother me.

100 posted on 04/12/2014 2:39:10 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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