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To: DiogenesLamp

So why bother to register him in Hawaii? If you are embarrassed by him and are planning on dumping him anyway, what’s wrong with him being Canadian? Why bother to plan out his future? And how would they know that he wouldn’t acquire American citizen from her daughter?


152 posted on 04/16/2014 4:52:39 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

There would be nothing stopping granny from privately doing what was best for her grandson—procuring US citizenship—while publicly keeping it quiet. You can nitpick this thing to death, 4Z, but what would be the point? The Canadian scenario could have happened. We don’t know for sure if it did or didn’t, but it’s a possibility. If the travel records of the National Archives hadn’t been vandalized, we might know more—and almost certainly would [or there’d have been no reason to degrade the record].


154 posted on 04/16/2014 5:41:30 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 4Zoltan
So why bother to register him in Hawaii? If you are embarrassed by him and are planning on dumping him anyway, what’s wrong with him being Canadian?

I find it entirely plausible that a mother can be utterly embarrassed by what her daughter did, yet want no ill to befall her grandchild. Why would you think the two things would be mutually exclusive?

I also think that over time those very likely racist white grandparents came to love their mixed race grandchild.

And how would they know that he wouldn’t acquire American citizen from her daughter?

Because Madelyn was no fool. It would probably take her less than a day to find the answer to that question back in 1961. The law at the time would have rendered him not an American because his mother hadn't met the residency requirements specified in the 1952 naturalization law. She wasn't old enough to meet them.

For that matter, if her daughter was sent to Canada to have her baby, Madelyn may have had several months to look up the pertinent law prior to his birth. I expect they had copies of the naturalization act of 1952 in Honolulu back in 1961.

156 posted on 04/16/2014 9:31:46 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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