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To: Agamemnon
Bundy has had an opportunity for 20+ years to substantiate his claims. He has not provided any evidence that he held grandfathered grazing rights to public lands. His legal defense was as follows:

Bundy principally opposes the United States’ motion for summary judgment on the ground that this court lacks jurisdiction because the United States does not own the public lands in question. As this court previously ruled in United States v. Bundy, Case No. CV-S- 98-531-JBR (RJJ) (D. Nev. Nov. 4, 1998), “the public lands in Nevada are the property of the United States because the United States has held title to those public lands since 1848, when Mexico ceded the land to the United States.” CV-S-98-531 at 8 (citing United States v. Gardner, 107 F.3d 1314, 1318 (9th Cir. 1997)).

Moreover, Bundy is incorrect in claiming

While I think Bundy is legally in the wrong here, I think it abhorrent that the federal government thinks it's appropriate to mount a small-scale, armed invasion of BLM agents to remove cattle when it won't lift a finger to remove 12 million illegal aliens who are also trespassing and doing exponentially more damage to the land and the economy than grazing cattle.
78 posted on 04/11/2014 9:43:30 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

There is plenty of legal argument left surrounding the issue of ‘ownership’. The federal government can control territories but not own them. For example, Puerto Rico is a US Territory but it is not owned by the federal government.

The district court erred if it ruled ‘ownership’ of Nevada to the federal government. It was never ownership, it was legal territorial jurisdiction; control and administration.

Inhabitants of a region coming under federal jurisdiction never lose ‘ownership’ of the land they live on. Such inhabitants inherit rights under the US Constitution of which property is one.

When a territory becomes a state, the federal rights of inhabitants come under state jurisdiction with federal approval. The Bundy family has rights granted by the state of Nevada and the federal government must respect those rights.


101 posted on 04/11/2014 10:18:07 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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