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To: xzins
My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972.
Except that the Gold Butte area isn't part of the Bunkerville allotment, Ms. Shiree Bundy Cox. Which means your father doesn't have the rights to the Gold Butte land.
Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management.
1930s. Federal Grazing Act.
When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job.
Your father cannot fire the federal government from land they received in treaty with Mexico in 1848, Ms. Bundy Cox. It doesn't work that way. He leases the grazing rights; he doesn't own the land.
He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down.
That's because the County knows it's not their land and knows it would be illegal for them to take those fees. Again, your father just can't rewrite the laws because he feels they ain't fair to him or how he wants them to be.
Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years.
No, that's sovereign citizen stuff and it don't fly in the United States. Your dad's not a "Freeman on the Land" or any such. Your dad hasn't proven anything to be unlawful. He's just decided to "gibsmedat" with federal lands.
See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property.
No, ranching has never worked like that. Your cattle stray, you tend to lose them. Have to keep them fenced up. Any other thinking is entitled.
Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it.
Well, they got:
1) law,
2) property rights,
3) and owed fees backing them up. It's rather like you not paying the IRS what you owe. They will seek recompense.

Sorry, daughter, but your dad screwed himself into this when he got the notion he didn't have to pay grazing fees at all. Now, two decades later, the bill is being presented. I don't have sympathy for debtors.
259 posted on 04/11/2014 3:51:01 AM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: GAFreedom

Yep. They should be shot, and their spring calves left to die in the desert.


282 posted on 04/11/2014 6:19:22 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: GAFreedom; xzins; bert
This isn't about "grazing fees" or "Federal property".

It's about "First Amendment areas", and beatings, and swarms of officers harassing and eating out the substance of the taxpayers & Cliven Bundy.

285 posted on 04/11/2014 7:18:32 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: GAFreedom
>> Except that the Gold Butte area isn't part of the Bunkerville allotment

This is mistaken. The Gold Butte ACEC (Area of Critical Environmental Concern) takes a large part of the Bunkerville range.

I've combined maps showing the Gold Butte ACEC[1], Bunkerville[2], and a relief map. The maps overlay each other using I-15 and Lake Mead for alignment and scaling. Although not perfect it is close.


[1] See page 31 of the BLM Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone,

[2] BLM Trespass Cattle Notice of Intent Map 3/24/2014

305 posted on 04/11/2014 11:55:28 AM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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