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Cows and Illegal Aliens
American Thinker ^ | 4/10/2014 | Michael Geer

Posted on 04/10/2014 8:07:07 AM PDT by rktman

On the one hand we have Cliven Bundy and his family of ranchers on the same property ranching cattle from the early 1800s since before the Federal government claimed all the land they have been using for grazing. On the other hand we have 200 plus armed federal agents, including trained snipers, using brute force intimidation tactics against the Bundy family and their way of life.

Why? Because of a tortoise. A situation the federal establishment is very good at blowing up into murder, seizure of real property and federal standoffs, standoffs that are famous for resulting in the deaths of innocent children. In order for average citizens to stand with the Bundys and support them against this misuse of federal authority your Bureau of Land Management has graciously provided a small area which they designate as a First Amendment Area.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; blm; bundy; dhs; esa
Weird huh? It's okay for the trespassers to leave mounds of trash on "environmentally protected" lands but not for cows to release their earth killing noxious methane gasses on range that's been used for decades. States rights? You don't need no steenkin' states rights. Good thing it's only cows and not 17.9 inch barreled shotguns.
1 posted on 04/10/2014 8:07:07 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Federal thieves. America deconstructed.


2 posted on 04/10/2014 8:11:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: rktman

The contrast drawn in this article shows that we are now long past “the awkward stage”, as the lady put it.


3 posted on 04/10/2014 8:18:40 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: rktman
Ah! Ha! It is a sad sad when you awake to check the news to see what critical details were left out of yesterdays stories and find that the straw that broke the camel's back is a tortoise.
4 posted on 04/10/2014 8:21:16 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: rktman

He stopped paying for grazing rights BEFORE it was declared off-limits for grazing. He’s been freeloading off the gov’t by grazing his cattle for free and pocketing the difference. He is a trespasser and taker.


5 posted on 04/10/2014 8:22:50 AM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis

Agreed. Feels entitled to live off the commons.


6 posted on 04/10/2014 8:26:51 AM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Lou Budvis

got news for you read this from his daughter about the situation.
I found this on the Blaze, in the comments:Garrett Robins “Sorry this is long but applicable here. By SHIREE BUNDY COX: I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money’s against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they’re own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn’t work, they used the indangered species card. You’ve already heard about the desert tortis. Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It’s come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying,” how sad, but what does this have to do with me?” Well, I’ll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it’s Utah’s turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.
Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are?


7 posted on 04/10/2014 8:34:32 AM PDT by alchemist54 ((for those who fight for it freedom has a taste the protected will never know))
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To: alchemist54

What I’m seeing is a fedgov who will spend vast
amounts of time and money to prevent cattle from
grazing on land that they clain.

Yet at the same time they refuse to spend or prevent
illegal aliens from coming across our border and
grazing on OUR land.

Something wrong here.


8 posted on 04/10/2014 8:42:49 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: lonevoice

Read post #7


9 posted on 04/10/2014 9:08:49 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: alchemist54; taxcontrol

Thanks for posting this. Wonder what taxcontrol thinks?


10 posted on 04/10/2014 9:14:44 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: rktman

The land that Bundy is trespassing on and claiming squatters rights to is US federal land. There are no states rights issues here.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 9:23:46 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Federal lands comprise about 85% of Nevada so he probably isn’t alone. If the cows are such a threat, looks to me like the blm needs to round up all the horses currently “trespassing” on federal lands as well. Either that or shoot them from choppers and let the predators dine on their carcasses. Animal rights activists would have a field day with that one. After all, they, like cows, are imports to the US.


12 posted on 04/10/2014 9:31:37 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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They are removing hoses: http://www.habitatforhorses.org/blm-to-remove-4800-wild-horses/


13 posted on 04/10/2014 9:33:10 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

We’ve been past the big corral north of Reno and to see all the hundreds of horses there with absolutely no shade is pretty sad. They get food and water but there’s no place for them to escape the sun in the summer. At least when they are roaming out on blm land they can find a gulley or a wash or outcropping to get out of the sun.


14 posted on 04/10/2014 9:52:07 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy; et al

Ah! Ha! It is a sad sad when you awake to check the news to see what critical details were left out of yesterdays stories and find that the straw that broke the camel’s back is a tortoise.
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A tortoise whose population decline is largely due to federal protection of ravens whom just LOVE dining on the hatchlings.


15 posted on 04/10/2014 10:01:16 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: rktman

Do you know if they sell horses? My daughter is keen on getting one in a couple of years.


16 posted on 04/10/2014 10:24:17 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

I think the blm has auctions occasionally but not sure when they occur. Probably find something on the blm web site. Some of those animals are absolutely gorgeous. We used to have some property on the east side of town and the horses would come by frequently. My wife and I were walking near them and a big mare “snuck” up behind us and put her face in between us and let us scratch her. She obviously had been fed by somebody in the area she was so friendly.


17 posted on 04/10/2014 10:27:54 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Pride in the USA
Read post #7

And from #15

A tortoise whose population decline is largely due to federal protection of ravens whom just LOVE dining on the hatchlings.

Such unintended consequences cause me to believe it has less (if anything) to do with environmentalism and more to do with massive land grabs. I think this is how the alliance of county, state and fed bureaucracies eventually got ownership of all the land around Del Mar.

18 posted on 04/10/2014 10:44:01 AM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: taxcontrol

Put an add in Craigslist and ask for a free one. Lots of people are turning theirs out on state land because they can’t afford the feed and vet bills these days.


19 posted on 04/10/2014 12:17:02 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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