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To: Dead Corpse

First off, I have not been twisting or turning any threads. I have been repeating the simple facts which you cant or wont refute. I have consistently shown that in accordance with the Constitution and the laws of this nation, Bundy has no claim to the land as it belongs to the US Government.

Second, enumeration is in of itself a limitation as the powers have to be limited to the enumeration itself. Once the limits of the enumeration have been met, there are no other limits on those powers. In Article 1 section 8 the very introductory clause clearly defines that Congress shall have the exclusive legislative authority in all cases. If you don’t like that then change the Constitution the the legal means provided in the Constitution.


295 posted on 04/10/2014 12:56:42 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

I’ve refuted your facts. You are just ignoring the refutation to keep your house of cards standing.


297 posted on 04/10/2014 1:16:51 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (uire)
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To: taxcontrol; Dead Corpse

The principle of enumeration means “you can only do what is on a list; there is no authority for other activity; thereby, government is limited to only perform the activities on the list.”

The concept of due process, is that you properly followed the steps on that list.

Federal agents are *required* to act -— to use specific authority -— according to the list, and federal agents *must* be able to cite for you, each federal statute that authorizes them to take the action that they might take and/or are taking ... if you have the presence of mind to know this and ask a federal agent to state his/her authority from the federal statutes.

We were trained, as federal agents, to take the lead on that, and inform people, by identifying ourselves -— using 2 photo id’s -— and then citing the federal statutes that authorized our presence and activities so far ... and other actions that we might take.

Because, at all times, we had the responsibility to observe due process and your rights, by sticking to the activities *enumerated* by federal law.

“taxcontrol” - your remark (in your reply 295, above):

“Once the limits of the enumeration have been met, there are no other limits on those powers.”

... is incorrect.

There is *no authority* beyond and outside of what is lawfully enumerated and thus lawfully authorized.

Your concept advocates unlimited government authority except where specifically narrowed by what you incorrectly call “enumeration.”

While I was a federal agent, I had the unfortunate opportunity to observe a fellow agent abuse his authority -— using your misconception.


410 posted on 04/12/2014 6:38:15 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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