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To: kabar

Those that I worked with recently in Portland were hired by a tree farm...very hard work. They were decent people and did not do all those things that you mentioned. Actually, many businesses want them be wise they work their asses off for lower wages. That is not a good thing and of course they broke the law vetting in here illegally...but they are not often times, the villains that you are portraying. That is a fact. Sometimes, yes, they are. Often times, not.


104 posted on 04/06/2014 12:22:08 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian
They were decent people and did not do all those things that you mentioned.

What didn't they do? They were obviously here illegally and working illegally. Did they drive to work without a driver's license or inform their employer that they were here illegally? Did they pay taxes on their earnings? Did they supply an SSN?

It is illegal for employers to hire illegals to work.

but they are not often times, the villains that you are portraying. That is a fact. Sometimes, yes, they are. Often times, not.

Save your BS for people who don't understand our immigration laws.

The Myth of the “Otherwise Law-Abiding” Illegal Alien

The average illegal alien violates numerous statutes, often creating real victims.

False Personation of a U.S. Citizen (18 U.S.C. § 911). Illegal aliens often present themselves as U.S. citizens, an act punishable by up to five years in jail, a felony. This law is often cited in immigration prosecutions and may involve, for example, an alien claiming U.S. citizenship to his employer.

Fraud and False Statements (18 U.S.C. § 1001). It is common for illegal aliens to make false statements to the government or on official documents. An illegal alien violates this law when claiming to be a U.S. citizen on an I-9 Employment Eligibility form and faces a fine and up to five years imprisonment.

Social Security Fraud (42 U.S.C. § 408). This statute has been invoked where an illegal alien provided a false Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a job, where an illegal alien used a fraudulent Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a driver's license, and when an illegal alien used a Social Security card belonging to a citizen in order to obtain Section 8 housing, for example. Violation of this statute can result in a fine and/or imprisonment up to five years. The court can also require violators to provide restitution to the victims.

Stop defending the indefensible.

130 posted on 04/06/2014 12:49:54 PM PDT by kabar
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To: fabian

Of course most illegal aliens are good people. Many are even here not on the own, but brought byntheir parents. Still, there are great, nice people in all countries - all over the continent of Africa and Asia etc. That doesn’t mean those countries can simply OUTSOURCE THEIR POVERTY PROBLEMS to us.


162 posted on 04/06/2014 1:24:05 PM PDT by Yaelle
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