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To: markomalley

Juan, you are safer at a gun show than in the middle of a city-sized Army base.

Moreover, we now have serious scientific studies based on data from four different states who passed “shall issue” concealed carry laws, that as a demographic, CCW permitees are possibly the most law abiding and peaceful demographic that can be identified by law enforcement.

see for example:

The rate that concealed carry permit holders are now losing their permits for gun related violations

Between, October 1, 1987, and November 30, 2008, Florida issued permits to 1,439,446 people, many of whom have had their permits renewed multiple times. Only 166 had their permits revoked for any type of firearms related violation – about 0.01 percent. I was just looking up the new numbers. Updating those numbers to January 31, 2010, Florida has now issued permits to 1,704,624 people. The number who have had their permits revoked has risen to just 167. In 14 months, just one person with a Florida permit has lost his permit for a fire arms related violation. There are currently 692,621 valid permits. That is a revocation rate of 0.00014 percent.

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2010/02/rate-that-concealed-carry-permit.html

In North Carolina, one of only a handful of states that reveals the identities of permit holders, 200 of the 240,000 concealed carriers (.08 percent) committed felonies of all types, including eight shooting deaths, in the five-year period ending in 2011. This compares with about 2.5 percent of voting-age Americans who have a felony rap sheet, according to The Sentencing Project.

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-big-change-in-views-on-concealed.html


33 posted on 04/05/2014 2:46:47 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

For the reader to squirrel away for their own files here are other studies:

An Analysis of the Arrest Rate of Texas Concealed Handgun License Holders as Compared to the Arrest Rate of the Entire Texas Population,” William E. Sturdevant, September 1, 2000; Florida Department of Justice statistics,
1998; Florida Department of State,

http://concealedguns.procon.org/sourcefiles/sturdevant.pdf

From page 23 of the report:

6.3.3.1 Males
The average male Texan who is 21 years or older is 7.9 times more likely to be arrested for the violent crimes of murder, rape, robbery, and assault than the average male CHL holder. The average male Texan who is 21 years or older is 20 times more likely to be arrested for committing a non-violent crime than the average male CHL holder.

Looking at violent crimes individually, the average male Texan who is 21 years or older is 1.9 times (rate of 9.0 v. 4.8) more likely to be arrested for murder; 68 times (rate of 25 v. 0.4) more likely to be arrested for rape; 49 times (rate of 45 v. 0.9) more likely to be arrested for robbery;
3.2 times (rate of 207 v. 64) more likely to be arrested for aggravated assault; and 11 times (rate of 914 v. 82) more likely to be arrested for other assaults than the average male CHL holder.

No male Texas CHL holder was arrested for negligent manslaughter during the 1996 through 1999 period.

6.3.3.2 Females
The average female Texan who is 21 years or older is 7.5 times more likely to be arrested for the violent crimes of murder and assault than the average female CHL holder. The average female Texan who is 21 years or older is 16 times more likely to be arrested for committing a nonviolent
crime than the average female CHL holder.

Looking at violent crimes individually, the average female Texan who is 21 years or older is 1.7 times (rate of 1.3 v. 0.7) more likely to be arrested for murder; 2.2 times (rate of 48 v. 22) more likely to be arrested for aggravated assault; and 20 times (rate of 180 v. 9) more likely to be
arrested for other assaults than the average female CHL holder.

No female Texas CHL holder has arrested for negligent manslaughter, rape, or robbery during the 1996 through 1999 period.

...
7 CONCLUSIONS:

7.1.1 Arrest data for Texas CHL holders indicate that violent crime is not a consequence of handgun ownership or possession.

7.1.2 The total population of Texas has an arrest rate for violent crime that is 5.3 times higher than Texas CHL holders, based upon data from 1996 - 1999.
...

7.2.1 Arrest data for Texas CHL holders indicate that murder and non-negligent manslaughter is not a consequence of handgun ownership or possession....

...
7.5.2 The total population of Texas has an arrest rate for robbery that is 48 times higher than Texas CHL holders, based upon data from 1996 - 1999.

...
7.9.1 Less than two percent (1.9%) of the arrests of CHL holders for violent crimes that possibly involve weapons (murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, aggravated assault) were classified as “family violence” crimes.

...
7.10.2 The total population of Texas has an arrest rate for non-violent crime that is 14 times higher than Texas CHL holders, based upon data from 1996 - 1999.

from:
Concealed Weapons/Firearms License Statistical Report,” 1998; Texas Department of Public Safety and the U.S. Census Bureau, reported in San Antonio Express-News, September 2000; Texas Department of Corrections data, 1996-2000, compiled by the Texas State Rifle Association

Murder Rates by Minnesota Gun Permit Holders Expose Remarkable Safety of Firearms Owners

When the Minnesota law was passed, an annual report of crimes committed by permit holders was required. The Minnesota permit is simply a permit to carry, the law does not discriminate between carrying concealed and carrying openly.

Reports for the law are available for 2003, and 2005-2012 in pdf files.

The number of people with Minnesota permits that commit murder or manslaughter is remarkably low. Only three instances are recorded in the Minnesota Carry Permit annual reports for the nine years reported.

From the reports, the numbers of valid permits for each year are as follows:

2003 – 15,677
2005 – 32,885
2006 – 42,189
2007 – 51,347
2008 – 56,919
2009 – 69,313
2010 – 79,180
2011 – 91,221
2012 – 114,793
Total for the years listed – 553,524

Rate of carry permit holders committing murder and manslaughter/100,000 per year, .542.

Rate of murder in the general population in Minnesota, per 100,000 averaged for the years 2003, 2005 – 2012, is 1.78.

http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/10/murder-rates-by-minnesota-gun-permit-holders-expose-remarkable-safety-of-firearms-owners-2493064.html

https://dps.mn.gov/Pages/Results.aspx?k=permit%20to%20carry%20report

2011 Report:
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/Documents/2011%20Permit%20to%20Carry%20Year%20End%20Report%20Final.pdf

Quinnipiac Study: Concealed Carry Results in Fewer Murders

“These results suggest that restrictive concealed weapons laws may cause an increase in gun-related murders at the state level.”

1.3.2014 by Bradford Thomas

In what will certainly be gun control advocates’ new least favorite study, Quinnipiac University’s Mark Gius found not only that states with restrictive concealed weapons laws had higher gun-related murder rates, but that assault weapons bans had no significant impact on murder rates at the state level.

The study by economist Mark Gius, published in Applied Economics Letters, sought to “determine the effects of state-level assault weapons bans and concealed weapons laws on state murder rates,” using extensive data from a thirty-year period, 1980-2009. In the abstract for the study, Gius sums up the findings:

Using data for the period 1980 to 2009 and controlling for state and year fixed effects, the results of the present study suggest that states with restrictions on the carrying of concealed weapons had higher gun-related murder rates than other states. It was also found that assault weapons bans did not significantly affect murder rates at the state level. These results suggest that restrictive concealed weapons laws may cause an increase in gun-related murders at the state level.

Gius notes that these results are consistent with previous research, specifically citing the work by John R. Lott and David B. Mustard.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/quinnipiac-study-concealed-carry-results-fewer-murders

link to study

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13504851.2013.854294#.UsblyNK1y-2

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/13504851.2013.854294

Concealed Carry Permit Holders are One Third as Likely to Commit Murder as Police Officers

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/10/concealed-carry-permit-holders-are-one.html


37 posted on 04/05/2014 2:51:11 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat; All

Minnesota rate for murder/manslaughter for CCW holders:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/10/minnesota-carry-permit-murder-rates_16.html


51 posted on 04/05/2014 3:06:48 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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