Already addressed in Post #180:
My God man, quoting the NY Times to buttress your fallacious mutterings.
Here’s the real Cruz:
“Ted Cruz Vows To Oppose Any Path To Legalization for Undocumented Immigrants”
“Sen. Ted Cruz is dead set against any path to legalization for undocumented immigrants, unless it sends them on a detour back to their native countries, he told talk show host Sean Hannity in an interview on Monday.”
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As far as the NY Times, I wouldn’t trust a word they say about Senator Cruz. They hate him and will do whatever they can to make others feel the same way.
Who cares whether they have to go visit the family before legalization—it’s still amnesty and still a killer for this country.
Coulter is wrong about Romney, but she’s unfortunately quite right about Cruz.
The NY Times article has direct quotes from Cruz. Your article has NO DIRECT QUOTE that says what you want to think is Cruz’s position. Obviously there is confusion. So the other day I did something rational. I called Cruz office and I invite you to do the same thing. The guy who answered could NOT tell me Ted Cruz’s position on the issue. At the very least one should be suspect about that. I also sent an email asking his position and I am yet to hear back. I would just emphasize to read the quotes from the article’s. Not just the headline from the article writer. The only actual quotes from Cruz say that he wants illegals to stay. I called his office and they did NOT deny it. Until I personally hear him speak differently, that is what I believe is his heartfelt position. Doesn’t make him Satan, but I don’t agree with him.
It appears the anti-Cruz faction is out in full force, on this thread. I agree with you about these folks quoting the NYSLIMES to back up their *arguments* on Sen Cruz’ immigration stance.
Here’s more detail of what Sen Cruz has to say about immigration...
This is from a recent interview that Kathleen McKinley (aka Texas Sparkle) did recently with Sen Cruz, in Austin TX after his speech at the TX Public Policy Foundation:
Now, a recent poll said that 55% of American Hispanics say they think it’s more important to find a way for illegal immigrants to live and work in the U.S. legally, than to focus on a path to citizenship. Even Hispanics want this. But Sen. Cruz, you say that Democrats would rather push for a path to citizenship (Amnesty), so they can have a divisive issue for the 2014/2016 elections. You have said the Democrats have no interest in giving us bi partisan immigration reform. Do you still believe that?
A) “Yes. Congress made a deal with the American people in 1987. They said we will grant Amnesty to the 2 to 3 million people here illegally, and we will secure the border and then fix the illegal immigration problem. That never happened, and it never worked, because we never secured our border, and we never fixed the problem The Gang of Eight Bill essentially has made the same promise. It says we will grant Amnesty and sometime, somewhere down the line, we will secure the border. Now we have 11 to 12 million here illegally. The Gang of eight bill gives the same promise we where given in 1987. And we all see how that worked out.
“In the Senate I tried very hard to propose common sense amendments that would actually fix the problem. I proposed amendments that would improve the Gang of Eight Bill. The current bill makes the illegal immigration problem only worse. In the Senate Judiciary Committee I introduced a series of amendments. One was to put real teeth in border enforcement; to actually secure the border. I proposed to triple the border enforcement, and to increase four fold the helicopters and fixed wing assets and technology. In addition, to put in place a strong e-verify in the workplace. Every single Democrats voted these amendments down.
I introduced two amendments to dramatically increase and improve and streamline legal immigration focused on high skilled workers. High Tech and high skilled foreign students study here and graduate here in engineering, science, math, and then we send them back to their own country to work. They start businesses there, when they could start business here, and create jobs. It makes no sense. The amendment I introduced would increase the numbers of temporary high skilled visas five fold. Again, every single Democrat voted it down. Why? Sen. Chuck Schumer explained why. He said the Democrats had cut a deal with the union bosses and they could not go any higher.
Another amendment I introduced was to streamline and simplify the legal immigration system. It is now an extremely complicated bureaucracy. It takes years, and it’s expensive and burdensome. I proposed to end the per country caps. Actually, Mexico is hurt the most by this. It can take as long as 10-20 yrs to come into the U.S. legally from Mexico. Increasing per country caps would help with that. Every Democrat voted against it. Again, they cut a deal with the unions.
No member of the Senate is more of an advocate of legal immigration than I am. I am the son of a legal immigrant. I believe America is an extraordinary nation because we are the children of those who risked so much. The most divisive amendment I opposed in the Gang of Eight Bill was the path to citizenship to those here illegally. I oppose it because I think that it makes it profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who have waited years, and even decades to come here legally. It would only encourage future illegal immigration. No one who is concerned about a humane system would want to encourage those to risk their lives to come here illegally.
Even if you don’t agree with me on the merits, I believe there are not the votes in the House for this bill to pass. I believe it is designed to fail by Democrats so they can campaign in 2014 and 2016 on this divisive issue. If they wanted to see real immigration that fixes the problems, they would remove the poison pill of amnesty, so we can have a bill that can pass.”
When Sen. Cruz said this to Sen. Schumer, Schumer responded, “let me be clear, if there is no path to citizenship, there can be no reform.”
Sen. Cruz thanked Sen. Schumer for his candor. It’s clear that if Schumer cannot get 100% of his bill, he will do nothing for immigration reform. Most revealing, he will do nothing for the 11 million to 12 million people here living in the shadows. So, it’s not about true immigration reform to the Democrats, it’s about running on an issue they themselves refuse to compromise on, where they have made promises to union bosses, and won’t consider changing this to pass an immigration reform bill that is best for the country.
Keep in mind, if Sen. Cruz’s amendment had passed, the underlying work permit of the Gang Of Eight would have remained. The 11 to 12 million here living in the shadows would have been able to get a work permit, which the majority of Hispanics support over Amnesty.
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I cannot stand the term “living in the shadows”, when referencing illegals. I think at one time they did live in the shadows when they actually feared being deported. They not only don’t fear being deported, but they are now living large on tax free wages (mostly) AND on welfare/assistance.
If temporary work permits (what Sen Cruz wants) are issued while welfare/assistance is cut off, I think the illegal problem would begin to fix itself.
The Dims don’t want that (temp work permits) to happen, though, because they want the illegals to become union dues paying/Dim voting citizens, once amnesty would be passed, and the GOPe is happily going along with them. Sen Cruz points this out, perfectly, in this linked interview.