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Potential FDA Move on Recycling Grain Could Spike Beer Prices
KVDR ^ | April 4, 2014 | Shaul Turner

Posted on 04/04/2014 5:38:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Beer-makers in Colorado are upset about a proposal to keep them from recycling their used grain, and it could affect how much you pay for a beer this summer.

The Food and Drug Administration wants to stop beer brewers from selling their leftover grain to ranches so it can be used as food for cattle.

It’s not a requirement yet, but beer-makers make money off their used grain and say the new regulation would force them to dump millions of tons of it instead of recycling.

The grains are used barley, wheat and other grains that are steeped in hot water. The FDA is trying to make sure beer-makers meet the same standards as livestock and pet food manufactuers.

The overhaul also involves new sanitary handling procedures. The government says doing this will cut down on the spread of bacteria that can make animals and people sick.

Heavy hitters from the beer industry have been included in hearings. They want the government to reconsider.

Recycling the grain brings in money for beer-makers. Using that grain helps ranchers because feed prices are three times higher than recycled grain. The cost could be passed on, though it’s not expected to be a huge increase.


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To: Balding_Eagle; driftdiver
U.S. CORN ACREAGE UP FOR FIFTH STRAIGHT YEAR
http://www.nass.usda.gov/Newsroom/2013/06_28_2013.asp

WASHINGTON, June 28, 2013 –U.S. farmers successfully overcame a cold and wet early spring this year, planting 97.4 million acres of corn, up slightly from 2012, according to the Acreage report released today by the U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Agricultural Statistics Service (NASS). This is the highest acreage planted to corn since 1936 and marks a fifth year in a row of corn acreage increases in the United States...

Note the phrase "successfully overcame a cold and wet early spring", meaning that a good amount was planted late, which is contained in my above Clear fact #2: The propane was used to dry large amounts of green, immature & wet corn, generated by late plantings.

Note also that MY facts on this came directly from the USDA website, not some specious, unattributed, unlinked "Acres planed 2013: 95 Million acres, USDA" posting.

61 posted on 04/05/2014 2:15:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: driftdiver
Are you getting a giggle or two out of this?

Balding_Eagle is CLEARLY wrong, but he      just      won't      quit.

62 posted on 04/05/2014 2:25:00 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil; Balding_Eagle

Its my guess Balding_Eagle is involved in the farm industry and has rationalized the entire ethanol fiasco because he’s making boatloads of money.

I grew up in farm country and know farming is a tough business. The government has leverage the difficulty and used subsidies to gain control of the industry and all the people associated with it. Many farmers entire life is based on what the govt will or won’t pay, subsidies, pay for leaving land idle, tarrifs and so forth.

Ethanol is just the next step. Someone had the 10% ethanol bill in their back pocket and saw an opportunity to make big bucks regardless of the impact on the country.

The science is simple. Ethanol has less energy than gasoline. Nothing is going to change the chemistry. Ethanol might make sense if you weren’t using food and had a shortage of oil.

As it is it takes more gas to produce ethanol than is output as a final product. Then they mix it with gas which reduces efficiency resulting in yet more gas being required to produce the same result. Not to mention the millions of cars and other products which have been damaged by ethanol.

So no he won’t quit. He’s making too much easy money to stop defending this house of cards.


63 posted on 04/05/2014 3:13:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I grew up in farm country and know farming is a tough business.

Same here. Half my wife's family are farmers.

He's talking his book.

The science is simple. Ethanol has less energy than gasoline. Nothing is going to change the chemistry. Ethanol might make sense if you weren’t using food and had a shortage of oil.

As it is it takes more gas to produce ethanol than is output as a final product. Then they mix it with gas which reduces efficiency resulting in yet more gas being required to produce the same result. Not to mention the millions of cars and other products which have been damaged by ethanol.

An explanation so simple, an economic caveman like President MomJeans can understand it.

64 posted on 04/05/2014 3:47:14 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

http://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Maps/Field_Crops/cornac.asp


65 posted on 04/05/2014 3:57:52 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: Balding_Eagle; driftdiver
So let me get this straight.

You seem to feel that the more that you post, the more that it will change your opinion into facts.

Are your words some sort of "philosophers' stone" of the Internet?

**snicker**

66 posted on 04/05/2014 4:22:38 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Didn’t like that chart, did you.

To those of us who have a 40+ year history of analyzing USDA numbers...............well we just laugh at how easily you were duped.


67 posted on 04/05/2014 4:34:43 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: Balding_Eagle; driftdiver
To those of us who have a 40+ year history of analyzing USDA numbers

You were right, driftdiver - he's making boatloads of money off ethanol. He's talking his book, all day long.

well we just laugh at how easily you were duped.

Take it up with the USDA news office. Either their news release was wrong, or their numbers are wrong. OR BOTH.

**snicker**

68 posted on 04/05/2014 4:45:25 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil; Balding_Eagle

We’ve seen numerous instances these last few years of govt agencies publishing fake numbers to further their agenda.

When the Soviets did it we called it propaganda among other things.


69 posted on 04/05/2014 5:08:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kiryandil

Your numbers were the market manipulation numbers for the USDA capitalist cronies Grasshopper. Everyone knew that they day they were released.

Why you were so foolish as to choose them is troubling.

I chose, and published, the real numbers.

Wisdom takes time, Grasshopper.

You need to question the rest of your information, it is more than a little suspect.


70 posted on 04/05/2014 8:26:37 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: driftdiver

This fakery has gone on for more than my 40 years of involvement. One has to know when the time is that they have no other option than to release accurate information.

Notice the huge difference. Why the difference is subject to argument, but the USDA is a real problem for farmers.


71 posted on 04/05/2014 8:34:19 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Oh, Good God.


72 posted on 04/05/2014 10:42:06 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: driftdiver
Balding_Clown wrote: Why the difference is subject to argument, but the USDA is a real problem for farmers.

What an effing clown. "The USDA numbers are right when I post charts that support my money-making ethanol scheme, but the USDA numbers are wrong when they don't support my money-making ethanol scheme."

We get it, Balding_Clown. You're making big money from ethanol. Our small engines and propane bills thank you.

73 posted on 04/05/2014 10:48:53 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Balding_Eagle
Wisdom takes time, Grasshopper.

Don't presume to lecture me on the government, n00b.

74 posted on 04/05/2014 10:51:04 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Serenity my dear Grasshopper. Breath deep.

And check your other information, you’ll find it’s it’s all foo-foo too.

Or don’t. Additional beatings are free if I’m not otherwise occupied.


75 posted on 04/06/2014 5:13:31 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Once again, you seem to feel that the more that you post, the more that it will change your opinion into facts.

You're wrong, and you're a clown.

Ethanol is Statism writ large.

Anytime you need further schooling, young Balding_Clown, just give me a shout-out.

76 posted on 04/06/2014 5:55:48 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Bwahahaha.

Reduced to ad homonym attacks.

Bwahahaha


77 posted on 04/06/2014 6:04:00 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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U.S. CORN ACREAGE UP FOR FIFTH STRAIGHT YEAR
http://www.nass.usda.gov/Newsroom/2013/06_28_2013.asp

WASHINGTON, June 28, 2013 –U.S. farmers successfully overcame a cold and wet early spring this year, planting 97.4 million acres of corn, up slightly from 2012, according to the Acreage report released today by the U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Agricultural Statistics Service (NASS). This is the highest acreage planted to corn since 1936 and marks a fifth year in a row of corn acreage increases in the United States...

Note the phrase "successfully overcame a cold and wet early spring", meaning that a good amount was planted late, which is contained in my above Clear fact #2: The propane was used to dry large amounts of green, immature & wet corn, generated by late plantings.

78 posted on 04/06/2014 10:59:14 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I call the GOPe Moderate Democrats, because they aren’t Republicans.


79 posted on 04/06/2014 7:59:37 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: kiryandil
Thanks for posting this. I really got burned by the propane prices this winter.

I didn't know that the EPA had a hand in it.

I see that the ethanol shills will go to any length to to shout down their opponents, even on Free Republic.

I remember vermin like the ethanol shill, back in the day. Keep up the good work, and thanks again! People will be hearing about this skullduggery.

80 posted on 04/07/2014 11:23:47 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Islamic law upholds that children born to a Muslim father are automatically Muslim)
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