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To: progunner
RE :”There are several legal ways in which Obama could blanket amnesty illegals. He could theoretically pardon them the way President Jimmy Carter gave blanket amnesty to Vietnam War-era draft dodgers.”

I stop reading when I get to dumb stuff like that.

Pardon illegals...??

There is no criminal penalty for being illegal here. Nothing to pardon.

Pleese!

3 posted on 04/02/2014 8:13:00 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

8 U.S.C. § 1325 : US Code - Section 1325: Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both. (b) Improper time or place; civil penalties Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of - (1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection. Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed. (c) Marriage fraud Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both. (d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/II/VIII/1325#sthash.khvbumoR.dpuf

Nationality Act Section 237 (a)(1)(B) which says: “Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable.”


10 posted on 04/02/2014 8:38:36 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: sickoflibs
There is no criminal penalty for being illegal here. Nothing to pardon.

I think it means a blanket legalization. Instant green card legal status. Heck... Maybe instant citizenship. Instant citizenship lets Obama do some ballot-stuffing, in one swift move.

11 posted on 04/02/2014 8:42:06 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: sickoflibs
There is no criminal penalty for being illegal here. Nothing to pardon.

It is currently a misdemeanor, but the penalty is deportation. The lawbreakers have committed many other crimes like identity theft, tax evasion, working illegally, etc. We also have 800,000 absconders who have been ordered by the courts to be deported and have not left.

The Myth of the “Otherwise Law-Abiding” Illegal Alien

False Personation of a U.S. Citizen (18 U.S.C. § 911). Illegal aliens often present themselves as U.S. citizens, an act punishable by up to five years in jail, a felony. This law is often cited in immigration prosecutions and may involve, for example, an alien claiming U.S. citizenship to his employer.

Fraud and False Statements (18 U.S.C. § 1001). It is common for illegal aliens to make false statements to the government or on official documents. An illegal alien violates this law when claiming to be a U.S. citizen on an I-9 Employment Eligibility form and faces a fine and up to five years imprisonment.

Social Security Fraud (42 U.S.C. § 408). This statute has been invoked where an illegal alien provided a false Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a job, where an illegal alien used a fraudulent Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a driver's license, and when an illegal alien used a Social Security card belonging to a citizen in order to obtain Section 8 housing, for example. Violation of this statute can result in a fine and/or imprisonment up to five years. The court can also require violators to provide restitution to the victims.

24 posted on 04/02/2014 10:41:19 PM PDT by kabar
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