[Ramius]

"[The idea] that we have created in the National Security Agency this monster bureaucracy that's reading everybody's mail, listening to everybody's phone calls, infringing upon our civil liberties and civil rights. Hogwash," he said. "We don't have a president who can stand up and defend the program. Nobody believes him — for good reason. Look what he did with health care."

OMFG... That's hysterical. And brilliant.

I've long believed that all the hand-wringing over the NSA was over the top. Sorry, I mean... I dislike Obama as intensely as anyone... But he's just not got the NSA reading our emails and listening to our phone calls. First, because the NSA doesn't care about us, but second... If they could do that halfway competently they wouldn't have pooched Obamacare so bad.

[21twelve]

Obama got elected. TWICE. With huge, effective techniques in data mining to get out the vote. (Twice if needed). I’m not sure obamacare was meant to work. (”What we REALLY need is a single-payer system. That would be easier”). But I bet they are getting more data for their political machine. And lots of similar stuff from the NSA.

And it wouldn’t surprise me that Cheney is putting down the competency of the NSA. He and Bush were the ones that got the bigger ball rolling faster on that stuff in the fight against terrorism. “Ha. The NSA. You don’t need to worry about THEM!”