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To: Lurking Libertarian

Even with my first wife, I was never a “hitter”. But “physical force” could be pretty broadly defined to include the action of husbands AND wives in most marriages at one time or another, especially in their younger years.

My ex pushed me so hard in the chest once tht she fell backwards on her butt. If that had been on camera and I had pressed misdemeaner domestic abuse charges and she was convicted, she could never own a gun.

But maybe this involves more serious physical force.


4 posted on 03/26/2014 12:37:32 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
But maybe this involves more serious physical force.

The defendant's misdemeanor conviction was under a Tennessee law which required "physical harm" to the victim, which was why even Scalia (who reads the federal statute more narrowly than the majority) was OK with saying he can't possess a gun. What surprised me was the Alito-Thomas concurrence, which says even a slap would be enough. But they tend to read statutes literally.

7 posted on 03/26/2014 12:43:17 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: cuban leaf

“But maybe this involves more serious physical force.”

Actually, I think the court said the exact opposite: “no proof of physical violence is required to support the domestic violence charge”

So, it appears a mere allegation is enough.


14 posted on 03/26/2014 12:47:00 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: cuban leaf

“Even with my first wife, I was never a “hitter”. But “physical force” could be pretty broadly defined to include the action of husbands AND wives in most marriages at one time or another, especially in their younger years.

My ex pushed me so hard in the chest once tht she fell backwards on her butt. If that had been on camera and I had pressed misdemeaner domestic abuse charges and she was convicted, she could never own a gun.

But maybe this involves more serious physical force”

No, see this is what ya’ll don’t apparently understand. I’ve been harping on this law for years and what folks think is that I approve of hitting and abusing women. Which is BS but really I don’t care. Kinda like being called a racist, I just don’t give a crap.

You see, when your wife pushed you and then fell back hitting her butt, then you were guilty of domestic violence. If she had called the police. When the cops got there, someone was going to jail. And it would have been you. Then you’re in the system. And the cops and courts have a hard-on for “wife beaters” don’t ya know.

Like you.........


27 posted on 03/26/2014 1:05:14 PM PDT by saleman
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To: cuban leaf

“Enhanced” Lautenturd Amendment... coming to MN soon:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3137325/posts

Read the statute on what constitutes 5th degree domestic assault in MN-in most cases it’s far from anything close to “beating” anyone or hitting anyone, yet will be included in the bill proposed in current form.

This is like giving someone a DUI AND taking their car for being at .02 BAC ( only a driving is not a right )


50 posted on 03/26/2014 3:07:26 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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