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Michelle Malkin: Put aside the pot jokes and look again at Colorado legalization
Hotair ^ | 03/26/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/26/2014 9:58:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: andyk
The FReepers on this thread are TERRIFIED of being called on their support of the bastardization of the interstate commerce clause.

Some of them do seem to work very hard at not having that conversation.

101 posted on 03/26/2014 11:47:41 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: grobdriver
Face it - those who are predisposed to smoke weed are not in the highest percentile of those exercising good judgement.

So you think that these types aren't already smoking and driving? Those who will break the law, will break the law regardless of what the law says. Do you honestly believe that there are people who have been waiting around until pot was made legal, just so that they could go out and start driving with pot in their system?

I am not saying that we should start putting pot commercials on TV so as to offer it to 3 year olds as Vitameatavegamin, but those who are going to smoke and drive have already been doing so - if you think otherwise, you are not living in reality.

This goes back to my first argument. Since we know there are people who will kill someone with a gun in the future, should we stop selling guns? The answer is NO.
102 posted on 03/26/2014 11:50:41 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: tacticalogic

LOL, OK, so as lame as it is, that is the best you can do to avoid coming out against abortion and gay marriage, and for not supporting pro-life, pro-marriage politics.


103 posted on 03/26/2014 12:04:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SeekAndFind

The CDC says marijuana has more carcinogens than tobacco. It also causes brain damage.

It won’t be long until the lawsuits start against the marijuana suppliers and retailers as users start turning up more frequently in auto and work accidents.


104 posted on 03/26/2014 12:06:02 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: a fool in paradise
Since the standard for alcohol use is headed towards “any measurable amount in your blood”, why not go ahead and keep pot at that threshold? They were fine with demonizing alcohol and tobacco.

Not sure who this disembodied "they" are, I have yet to see anyone on the anti alcohol and anti tobacco bandwagon who isn't real big in the anti legal weed bandwagon, too. I know it's a wacky idea totally devoid of the required hypocrisy and desire force others to live the way you want them to live, but if you want to stop the anti alcohol and anti tobacco nazis, you may find allies in the pro legal weed crowd.

105 posted on 03/26/2014 12:13:23 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

I see plenty of pot advocates on FR who are antialcohol and antitobacco.


106 posted on 03/26/2014 12:17:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: grobdriver

And we sure want more people out there driving DUI.


States that liberalize pot laws have a proven DECREASE in traffic fatalities.

It’s either because some are substituting pot for alcohol (and are better drivers stoned than drunk) or because pot smokers tend to do it at home, while drinkers are more likely to be at bars and restaurants.

For me, I’d prefer a few more annoying stoners and give up the police state war on drugs that infringes liberties of everyone.


107 posted on 03/26/2014 12:42:19 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

Malkin is off my reading list


108 posted on 03/26/2014 12:43:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: a fool in paradise

DWI tickets are about largely about revenue (MADD, insurance, states, services, courts)


Don’t forget trial lawyers and the “treatment” industry.


109 posted on 03/26/2014 12:44:51 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: GeronL

Malkin is off my reading list


Maybe you should just put your fingers in your ears and repeat loudly: “I’M NOT LISTENING! I’M NOT LISTENING! I’M NOT LISTENING!”


110 posted on 03/26/2014 12:47:13 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

Or maybe I will just stop reading crap


111 posted on 03/26/2014 12:59:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

Yep, my accidental omission on the lawyers, the treatment was what I meant by services...


112 posted on 03/26/2014 1:09:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Atlas Sneezed
It's also good fundraising for “tough on crime” politicians seeing election.

Illegal immigrants don't make good cash cows and their arrest can open a whole can of worms (immigration status, publicly paid defenders, incarceration costs...)

113 posted on 03/26/2014 1:10:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: demshateGod
Which is the reason men, in a better time, in a better America, banned it.

When was it banned, and who lead the movement?

114 posted on 03/26/2014 1:45:29 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: demshateGod
They ignore and wish away the devastating affect this will have on our culture.

Prohibitionists, and their arguments, never change.


Although the temperance movement claimed Dr. Benjamin Rush (1745/46-1813) as one of its primary inspirations, he actually promoted moderation rather than prohibition. The temperance movement often had difficulty getting facts right.

Early temperance writers often insisted that because of their high blood alcohol content, "habitual drunkards" could spontaneously combust and burn to death from inside.

A temperance publication wrote of drinking parents who gave birth to small children with a "yen for alcohol so strong that the mere sight of a bottle shaped like a whiskey flask brought them whining for a nip."

One temperance "scientific authority" implied that inhaling alcohol vapors might lead to defective offspring for at least three generations.

Because the temperance movement taught that alcohol was a poison, it insisted that school books never mention the contradictory fact that alcohol was commonly prescribed by physicians for medicinal and health purposes.

Temperance Leader Lucius Manlius Sargent tried to get secondary schools, colleges and universities to eleminate all references to alcoholic beverages in ancient Greek and Latin texts.

Because the temperance movement taught that drinking alcohol was sinful, it was forced to confront the contrary fact that Jesus drank wine. Its solution was to insist that Jesus drank grape juice rather than wine.

During Prohibition, temperance activists hired a scholar to rewrite the Bible by removing all references to alcohol beverage.

The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) strongly supported Prohibition and its strict enforcement.

The Bible says to "use a little wine for thy stomach's sake" (1 Timothy 5:23). This admonition caused serioius problems for temperance writers, who argued that alcohol was a poison and that drinking it was a sin. So they insisted that the Bible was actually advising people to rub alcohol on their abdomens.

Prohibitionists often advocated strong measures against those who did not comply with Prohibition (1920-1933). One suggested that the government distribute poisoned alcohol beverages through bootleggers (sellers of illegal alcohol) and acknowledged that several hundred thousand Americans would die as a result, but thought the cost well worth the enforcement of Prohibition. Others suggested that those who drank should be:

A major prohibitionist group, the Women's Christian Temperance Union (WCTU) taught as "scientific fact" that the majority of beer drinkers die from dropsie.

The WCTU suggested that school teachers put half of a calf's brain in an empty jar into which alcohol should be poured. As the color of the brain turned from pink to gray, pupils were to be warned that a drink of alcohol would do the same to their brains. executed, as well as their progeny to the fourth generation.

115 posted on 03/26/2014 1:48:44 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: a fool in paradise
So much for the rhetoric of “tax the hell out of it”.

The problem is that anybody can grow it in their back yards. It's a weed. So if you try taxing it beyond a nominal amount, people will just grow their own.

116 posted on 03/26/2014 1:54:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I’m aware of that but the tax revenuers at the ATF will come knocking...


117 posted on 03/26/2014 1:59:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Ken H

A stoned nation is a loser nation that Putin types will take apart piece by piece. Just give them time. Same goes for the Muslims.

A wealthy stoned nation will become enslaved Elois. Just give it time. Honest legitimate medical marijuana...OK by me. But most such programs are backdoor marijuana legalization


118 posted on 03/26/2014 2:03:38 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

America is becoming an unlivable cesspool. You really think this is going to help? Why put so much energy into this?

It’s a good thing FDR, that constitutional champion, ended prohibition because our country has been getting better ever since. Today, we have great orginalists like Barney Frank fighting for a better America through pot legalization. Obama, the constitutional scholar, has told the DOJ to ignore the law when it comes to pot. The dope smoking, knockout game “teens” will cease stop attacking random white people when their drugs become legal. People are returning to God’s word in droves, applying His command to use all seed bearing plants and herbs. It’s a constitutional, cultural, and religious revival.


119 posted on 03/26/2014 2:09:47 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

I don’t know, but if it was before 1992, it was a better time, in a better America.


120 posted on 03/26/2014 2:14:10 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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