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You purposely try to conflate organ cells with organism so that you may degenerate the concept of ORGANISM to nothing more than a 'mass of undifferentiated cells'. You are a liar at heart and the truth is not in you. Slither back to DU or wherever leftists frauds are now being hatched. Freerepublic is a pro-life website. Liars and frauds are not meant to be comfy here.

I admit to being dumbfounded here. I have explained the scientific basis on which to oppose the murder of some two to three thousand babies every day in the US alone, and you react as if I'm advocating entering kindergartens and dismembering all of the children.

Are you even thinking through your reactions? Why do you want to attack me for scientifically opposing abortion?

If it is because I will not extend my opposition to abortion to the use of contraceptives, then so be it. This is one of the cases where I will have to say "Let's just agree to disagree", despite the fact that I absolutely hate that term. I am not Catholic, and I genuinely do not understand the Catholic opposition to contraceptives. I've tried--I've asked Catholics to explain it--but I just don't get it. I will certainly never condemn anyone for using contraceptives to limit their number of children so that they can afford to raise the ones they have.

BTW, implantation when it occurs is a chemically driven automatic process. No thought, nor awareness, is required.

I am assaulting your posts because you are a dead soul liar. You make assertions that are contrary to the science of embryology then claim you have not. You try to conflate the meaning od organ with the meaning of organism, but claim you're being 'scientific'. You're a liar. You have a less rigorous position than a typical leftist democrat drone, but you are not pro-life, evidenced by your setting a criteria so arbitrarily as 'consciousness' for the stop point of killing the new life struggling to survive.

And here is why your arbitrarily chosen stop point is just another iteration of the dead soul apologetics of the progressives. YOU CANNOT SAY WHEN THE NEW LIFE IS CONSCIOUS IN SOME FASHION because you cannot scientifically define the onset of consciousness during the gestational process.

Consciousness is not based on your arbitrary definition. You don't know how consciousness arises, from whence consciousness is sourced, nor when the new life is or is not conscious. You arbitrarily set a threshold that you cannot prove is the dividing line of actual consciousness and none entity. You are trying to justify the earliest killing of the new life conceived in the womb or petri dish on the basis of your unproven criteria for what you want to be the definition of consciousness, in order to make room for your dead soul agenda. THAT is so progressive, you liar.

And you have this littleman Mormonism apologist stroking your ego to keep you spouting your deadness. His criteria, btw, fits with whatever his shifting churchology dictates, as Orin Hatchlings has shown his beliefs to shift to allow the wholesale use of new life so long as it starts in a petri dish. Disgusting liars.