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Border buddies: A merger between the United states and Canada?
The Washington Times ^ | 3/23/2014 | Meghan Drake

Posted on 03/23/2014 5:27:20 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Delta Dawn
’ keep the french’

We like their fries...

YES! And I just had their TOAST for Sunday breakfast. The dry cleaner around the corner is French style. My favorite kiss is french.
Lafeyete...we are here!
Wait a moment.
I suspect from your ‘ nom de plume’ you may be of the coon ass persuasion. Which might make you FRENCH! He what's goin on here?
Whatta are you tryin to pull? ; )

141 posted on 03/24/2014 3:24:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Re post 57.

You are absolutely correct. I would guess the people in favor of this in Canada is below 3%. It would be political suicide for a federal politician to suggest this course.

Dianne Francis wrote this book for one reason, to sell books. Even she doesn't believe it is possible.

142 posted on 03/24/2014 4:38:04 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Peter Libra

War of 1812.

USA by any reasonable military balance of power should have had a cakewalk taking Canada. Embarrassing performance by our Army allowed the Canadians and Brits to kick us out, then counter-invade. Stopped by our Navy.

The Navy performed astonishingly well at first considering the imbalance of power. But was finally swamped by numbers. Poor initial British naval performance was probably due largely to over-confidence induced by repeated victories over low morale and experience European navies. US Navy was an entirely different matter.

The British small-force raid that took DC was another huge failure by US government and military.

America won Battle of New Orleans, and allowed this to convince them they’d actually won the war. An embarrassing defeat for the British Army, and one of the worst in its long history. In their defense, they’d never run up against anybody like Jackson.

As you say, a draw by any reasonable standard.


143 posted on 03/24/2014 5:07:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Peter Libra
The Canadians won, in that it was the first war where they asserted themselves as Canadians, and not just British colonists nor vassals of the United States.

The war was a victory for the U.S., because we showed the world we were a nation not to be trifled with. If we had lost, the U.S. would've been a small country on the eastern seaboard of the continent and would've never taken the immigrants we did. We'd have had European countries always in our business, messing with us.

As it is, the war opened up the west for us, and we took Europeans as immigrants, NOT as conquerors.

144 posted on 03/24/2014 5:51:21 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. DonÂ’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’ve often heard pop and couch in American usage, especially many years ago.


145 posted on 03/24/2014 6:14:39 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: dfwgator

I live in TX and spend considerable time in Alberta and I believe this would work just fine. You could throw in SK as well.


146 posted on 03/24/2014 8:00:38 AM PDT by tatown ("So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquitted by women, but it's still white men's fault.")
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian; Sherman Logan; MuttTheHoople
All three posts to me well read and the points well taken here. No scholar myself on that war, I do have extensive knowledge on the area involved in the 1812-1814 war. The paradise of the Mackinac Island, termed the "Gibraltar of the Great Lakes" is a tourist mecca. It was, of course the victory of the British aided by a fierce group of native Indians. The treaty of Ghent 1815 gave back the island to America.

The British Army had forts at St Joseph Island, Drummond Island. It was this knowledge that gave me to think of the British Factor in the struggle.

On a lighter note, a journal was kept on the Drummond Island which was American originally. The officer disliked the island, being a well bred British type. He also complained about the potatoes served and " a rather poor wine".

This the last territory annexed by Britain, who held on until 1827 to the island. A note was finally served which read that "if you do not leave immediately, we will come back with force of arms". The British left, leaving the cemetery and the unfortunate Irish soldiery buried there. Added to that the two chimneys of the barracks.

147 posted on 03/24/2014 10:52:25 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: markomalley

As a Canadian, as much as I admire many things about the U.S., I’m not ready to give up on Canada for the benefits (and costs) that would come with being part of the U.S.A. However, we could probably look at harmonizing certain rules and regulations that hamper cross-border trade and travel. Oh, for the good old days when one could travel back and forth without a passport, and with few hassles.


148 posted on 03/24/2014 1:51:11 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: markomalley
With all due respect to Canadian FReepers, please, God, no.

With all due respect to U.S. FReepers, I agree with that.

149 posted on 03/24/2014 1:53:20 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: markomalley

Ummm... No Thanks.


150 posted on 03/24/2014 1:54:16 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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To: BOOHA

That’s too bad, but no different than how Canadians with convictions (even if they’re been pardoned in Canada) are treated when trying to enter the US. BTW, if you were truly interested you could get a chit (Minister’s letter of rehabilitation, or something like that) which would allow you. And which you only need to get once and is good for life. As opposed to the waiver of inadmissibility (due to criminal convictions, etc) for entry to the US - which costs USD$565, and the longest one granted (after getting them multiple times) is for 5 years. Oh, you can also “blame” the US and Canadian governments for sharing their federal police records systems, which allows border officials to find out about any convictions. We are probably the only two countries in the world to share information at that level - I’ll be that Mexico doesn’t.


151 posted on 03/24/2014 1:58:37 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: gusty

I’ve often thought the same thing - when it comes to social welfare policies, the US is actually more socialist than Canada. More agencies providing more programs. Also, Social Security is bigger (per capita, I mean) than Canada’s OAS and CPP, combined.


152 posted on 03/24/2014 2:05:51 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: centurion316
Canada is the size of California so we are talking six states, max.

Canada is slightly larger than the U.S.

153 posted on 03/24/2014 2:14:26 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times

Actually we’d have to decide how many Provinces there would be, not States. :)


154 posted on 03/24/2014 2:30:28 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Snowyman
Actually we’d have to decide how many Provinces there would be, not States. :)

Not bad.

Why not have some of each? And throw in a few commonwealths, territories and protectorates just for fun. For example, Montana would attract a lot more interest if it called itself an Empire.

155 posted on 03/24/2014 2:44:11 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Interesting Times

We could do that, but what do we do with Washington DC ?


156 posted on 03/24/2014 3:04:02 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Snowyman
We could do that, but what do we do with Washington DC ?

Outsource it to Bangladesh?

157 posted on 03/24/2014 3:39:37 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: ExSoldier; Travis McGee; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead

Valid point and one that must be contemplated.

Canadian liberal government legislation in 1995 required the registration of all firearms, including shotguns and rifles, not just restricted firearms such as assault rifles and automatic weapons.


158 posted on 03/24/2014 5:12:51 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: markomalley

No, but...

There has been talk in the past of some of the more conservative western provinces seceding from Canada and applying for statehood. It never got beyond talk, but it has been discussed.

If Quebec goes, they may go too.

Would you trade Upper New England for Western Canada?


159 posted on 03/24/2014 8:47:46 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

54’ 40” or fight!


160 posted on 03/24/2014 8:48:35 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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