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Can We Save America? Do You Want The Truth?
The Ignorant Fishermen, com ^ | March 22, 2014 | DJP I.F

Posted on 03/22/2014 8:35:52 PM PDT by kindred

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To: onedoug

I have serious doubts about anyone who endorsed Juan McCain in his most recent reelection campaign.


41 posted on 03/23/2014 4:03:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: dalereed

“we figured this out 55 years ago and decided to not have childern because of what they would have to live through.”

That decision (made by millions of people) have brought us to this point.


42 posted on 03/23/2014 4:06:36 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kindred
I tend to agree with the article - we cannot save a "Titanic" that is already below the surface and on the way down. Biblically, we shouldn't waste time trying. Being of this earth, we can't help but want to try.

God has spoken and the disease will spread farther and wider until all but a small slice is consumed. We would make better use of our time strengthening our own faith and salvation and trying to carry the Word to any who will hear it.

I feel between a sword and a sharp place - I want God's Will done, but I want it in a way that is contrary to how He said it will "be done".

43 posted on 03/23/2014 5:15:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: kindred

Abolish political correctness and entitlement.
It is that easy.


44 posted on 03/23/2014 5:25:21 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: Dick Bachert

Thankks for the link. It is sobering.


45 posted on 03/23/2014 5:31:27 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: kindred
If necessary, He will take souls or nations to the desert, so to speak, to reveal His Grace, Mercy, Power and Glory by their absence. And, here we are.

Then, unless God hears and sees US repent and turn away from this path we are on and back to Him, His sentence will be just.

As a nation, we've committed ourselves to our rebellion and apostasy and will have earned our reward, unfortunately.

46 posted on 03/23/2014 6:33:36 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Well, YOU’RE just a bundle of roll-over-and-go-Frenchy-Frenchy-Frenchman, aren’t you?

“Isn’t worth saving?” So YOU’RE the arbiter of what is and what isn’t worth saving?

Glad you’re so casual with the sacrifices that so many Americans made with their lives, because evidently they thought it WAS worth saving.


47 posted on 03/23/2014 7:51:38 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Feeling is mutual honey-plum :)

Back in the Forties, the nation was different. Even recently the nation was different.

BUT

Now things are a mess and we need to see the culture collapse and we can get back to the basics of our nation’s values.


48 posted on 03/23/2014 8:14:01 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: kindred

With God, “nothing is impossible”.


49 posted on 03/23/2014 9:23:05 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: kindred; All

Look for Christian missionaries from the “global south” nations to go to the west and in a special way, to America.


50 posted on 03/23/2014 9:32:34 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
in a special way

What does that mean?

51 posted on 03/23/2014 9:34:29 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: CorporateStepsister; NFHale; DuncanWaring; Marcella; Windflier; AllAmericanGirl44; bobby.223; ...
"The way the US is right now, isn’t worth saving. You won’t see me working feverishly day and night to save the mess this country has been."

Go away, newbie surrender monkey...or are you an Obammunist troll? We have enough cowards on FReep already. If you're so weak willed you'd rather meekly hold out your wrists so the tyrants can slap on the cuffs and lead you away to your FEMA camp, that's your business. But to those of us who refuse to be slaves, your hand wringing and defeatism is boring as hell...and it encourages our enemies, foreign and domestic.

Freedom isn't free, and it isn't easy to keep. You evidently are too weak and cowardly for the task. Or, as Samuel Adams said so much more eloquently,

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

America is now, always has been, and always will be, worth saving, and dying for if necessary. That's because America isn't our pop culture, our welfare system, our bankrupt morals, and it definitely isn't those elected tyrants who are enslaving us with their every action. America is found in the pages of the US Constitution, in every state constitution, in the Declaration, our other founding documents, and in the Holy Bible. If you don't understand that, then go ahead and get in line for your FEMA camp...maybe they'll let you have first pick of cots.

You cowards make me sick.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

52 posted on 03/23/2014 10:15:11 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: ForYourChildren; NFHale; DuncanWaring; Marcella; Windflier; AllAmericanGirl44; bobby.223; ...
More weepy, whining defeatism from the surrender monkey chorus, and a newbie at that. I'm starting to think you hand wringing wimps are really Obammunist trolls, posting from some room in the basement of the Obammunist Ministry of Propaganda.

But if you really are just another boring surrender monkey, then go away and cry to someone who shares your cowardice. Those of us with backbone have work to do...you're just getting in the way, and boring the hell out of us.

Dawg soldiers up! Woof, woof!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

53 posted on 03/23/2014 10:23:31 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: CorporateStepsister; wku man; DuncanWaring; Marcella; Windflier; AllAmericanGirl44; bobby.223; ...

“...Now things are a mess...”

And your attitude makes it worse.

Instead of whining about how bad it is, why don’t you something positive to change it.


54 posted on 03/23/2014 10:54:45 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: wku man; CorporateStepsister; Marcella; Windflier; Old Sarge; OldPossum; Fightin Whitey; ...

I’m getting to the point that I think these give up/in cowards are Obama loving trolls also. DemocRAT plants set out to stir up doubt and confusion. How does one get so out of line as to quit on America? Just get the hell out of here if you think America is ‘gone’ or not worth saving. These gutless jerks make me want to throw up.


55 posted on 03/23/2014 12:33:45 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: kindred
Fedzilla is preparing for enforcing of martial law. The question is, before or after the economy collapses and starvation, disease, chaos, riot, and mayhem have run their course coarse. We The People have enabled evil to fester and grow in the Republic so we the people are going to receive the 'fruits' of that failure to act as the sovereigns we are, or were before allowing our place to be usurped by democrips and republicants alike.
56 posted on 03/23/2014 12:39:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

“Fedzilla is preparing for enforcing of martial law.” Lets work with for a minute. I would next ask, to what role would any state play in this venture. Would each state allow fed troops? Would each state use it’s own national guard for this enforcement? Would each state even accept the premise that martial law is necessary just because Fedzilla has declared it to be so.

Some of the more emotional on this thread are pulling typical leftists strategies of attempting to shout down anyone that hasn’t agreed to join in their party. They are being very divisive within conservative thought discussion, and are making conservatives look very petty.


57 posted on 03/23/2014 8:52:15 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: ForYourChildren

I personally —that means it is my opinion— believe that the martial law build up is aimed at restoring power to the surviving elites once a significant mass of Americans have been disposed of through disease, starvation, murder, mayhem and chaos from the collapse of society. The dependency calss will be raiding and destroying on too broad a scale for Fedzilla to deal with. But in a few months, maybe a year, the field will be so softened that state governments will no longer form a viable means to restore order. We are looking at the means to bring about the end of We The People so that this nation can be brought whimpering into the world order lusted for by people like Bush and Clinton and Feinstein and Pelosi and Harkin and Kerry and ... well, you get the picture.


58 posted on 03/23/2014 9:00:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Ok, thanks for the clarification. Your timeline, as I understand it, is: 1) a significant mass of Americans have been disposed of through disease, starvation, murder, mayhem and chaos from the collapse of society; then 2) martial law build up is aimed at restoring power to the surviving elites. And somewhere during 1) the state has basically ceased to exist.

Interesting.


59 posted on 03/23/2014 9:10:42 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: MHGinTN

I should add, that would be pretty ruthless also.

Of which, I would not put it past them. As this is basically what all communist countries have done to their own people. Hmm, very scary thought for America.


60 posted on 03/23/2014 9:14:30 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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