Posted on 03/21/2014 5:06:43 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
Don't you people ever tire of posting this worn-out phrase? It wasn't clever at the beginning and it sure isn't now. Try to think of something that is.
“Why doesnt the GOPe want to win back the White House?”
It’s easier taking lobbyist payoffs and hiding in Congress.
Are these idiots kidding?
The same inevitability card that gives us Cornball again and certainly Lindsey Graham and Mitch McC too can easily yield Jebbie. It’s already started afresh with George P. for land commissioner, and he easily outpolled Cornball too. The voters are just too uninformed.
Actually, yes, I think you’re right. It’s sad what our party has turned into, how we now have to fight two enemies now on the political battlefield.
They are followers of Bbig Al
media establishment trying to get another democratic destroyer in office after this failure of a president. They are in for a big surprise.
“If the GOPe succeeds in getting someone like Bush nominated, we should all concede that the game is up, they’ve won, and just stay home.”
I disagree. I hit my limit last time with the whitewashed jackass ‘gentile’ aborter, and voted some third party name I have already forgotten. Staying home and disengaging indicates acceptance or despair. Voting AGAINST both of these fraudulent conspiracies called ‘parties’ indicates that you have hurled their bowls of slop back in their faces.
Don’t be the guy in rags in the corner of the cell. Be Spartacus.
Make them know fear.
Well, you can still go to the precinct and vote for a few down-ballot candidates if they are any good, which could be questionable too. The Republican primary voters just repeatedly leave us flat. Their lack of knowledge is shocking, but they know how to make money.
I think the key is that the GOP does not fear us. It is entirely possible that they have no intentions of winning. The upper echelons of the party are very content with the nice salaries and the invitations to the Washington parties. They will get these bennies regardless of whether the GOP candidates win—barring, of course, an insurrection that could remove them from their positions but hell, they keep losing and they keep their jobs, so why should this concern them? It’s just not much of a threat to them.
Except for Goldwater, republicans have always nominated the guy who was next in line.
In 2012, that means the nominee will be Jeb (the next Bush), Santorum (finished 2nd in 2012), Romney or Ryan.
For all practical purposes, the votes of “useless” third parties are not really counted. In liberal VA in 2013, for instance, it’s rarely mentioned that a liberal third-party candidate kept the winner from taking an outright majority. All we remember is that the “conservative” Republican lost.
Santorum is running and he won Iowa in 2012.
“is designed to anoint middle-of-the-road establishment players based on when it’s their turn. Now it’s Jeb’s turn. It’ll never be Rand Paul’s turn. “
That is wrong. It is now Jeb’s, Santorum’s, Romney or Ryan’s turn. Furthermore, if Rand Paul finishes 2nd in 2016, in 2020, it will be Rand Paul’s turn.
I agree with you that there is no real desire to win. There is no real -difference- in world view or culture, just in appointment lists and accounting methods.
I guess I will just continue electoral potshots at the polls as opportunity permits.
I’ve never used the phrase myself, but people in TX don’t believe it. They have George P. (2014!) to prove it. Apparently all Republicans except for a few Tea Party diehards voted for him, if they voted at all, that is.
Actually, I cast my last ballot in 2012. There was an election in my home state of Virginia in 2013, which I passed up, knowing that the liberals, concentrated in northern Virginia, have captured this state. And sure enough, the Democrats got the governorship, courtesy of the lowlifes in the counties surrounding Washington. Now, they have all the statewide offices, including both senators.
If the Republicans cannot win the big ones, I’m not concerned about what happens down-ballot. Sure, you could make a good case about why I should be concerned but I’m not. Illogical? Sure! But emotionally I’m moved toward just indifference at this point. I’m old and have no children, and thus there’s nothing personal in it for me.
The only thing that could get off my duff would be the nomination of Cruz for president. Nobody else, and particularly Rand Paul, whom I think is a closet liberal posing as a conservative.
You throw them out of office and they get a nice golden parachute in some K Street lobbying firm. Bingo, bango, way to make a cool million...
I know you are correct and that they will minimize it publicly. But if comparable numbers keep showing up to the polls and a growing percentage reject these BFF parties, at some point they will have to take notice. At this point I feel -no- obligation to the Republicans. At local levels, I will continue to vote Republican more often than not, but I am looking for reasons to vote against BOTH the D’s and R’s.
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