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Maldives 'witnesses' report seeing 'low flying jet' on morning that MH370 disappeared
The Telegraph ^

Posted on 03/18/2014 9:57:14 AM PDT by bryan999

Maldives 'witnesses' report seeing 'low flying jet' on morning that MH370 disappeared - follow latest updates on missing Malaysia Airlines plane

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; malaysia; malaysianairlines; maldives; maylasianairlines; mh370; waronterror
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To: Meet the New Boss

If the satellite pings occurred every hour, and the last ping was at 8:11 a.m. KL time, and these Maldives witnesses did in fact see the plane at 8:15 a.m. KL time, then if the Goodfellow theory is correct the plane crashed not long after the sighting at Maldives, because there was no ping at 9:11 a.m.

The place to search for debris would be extrapolating the flight path from the Strait of Malacca to Kuda Huvadhoo and onward for up to 56 minutes of flying time.


61 posted on 03/18/2014 11:41:09 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: bryan999

Anybody remember the crash that killed Payne Stewart? I do cause I’m a golfer and his agent, Robert Fraley played at Alabama. Anyway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash


62 posted on 03/18/2014 11:45:39 AM PDT by saleman
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To: saleman

Following the depressurization, the pilots did not receive supplemental oxygen in sufficient time and/or adequate concentration to avoid hypoxia and incapacitation. The wreckage indicated that the oxygen bottle pressure regulator/shutoff valve was open on the accident flight. Further, although one flight crew mask hose connector was found in the wreckage disconnected from its valve receptacle (the other connector was not recovered), damage to the recovered connector and both receptacles was consistent with both flight crew masks having been connected to the airplane’s oxygen supply lines at the time of impact. In addition, both flight crew mask microphones were found plugged into their respective crew microphone jacks. Therefore, assuming the oxygen bottle contained an adequate supply of oxygen, supplemental oxygen should have been available to both pilots’ oxygen masks.

[A] possible explanation for the failure of the pilots to receive emergency oxygen is that their ability to think and act decisively was impaired because of hypoxia before they could don their oxygen masks. No definitive evidence exists that indicates the rate at which the accident flight lost its cabin pressure; therefore, the Safety Board evaluated conditions of both rapid and gradual depressurization.

If there had been a breach in the fuselage (even a small one that could not be visually detected by the in-flight observers) or a seal failure, the cabin could have depressurized gradually, rapidly, or even explosively. Research has shown that a period of as little as 8 seconds without supplemental oxygen following rapid depressurization to about 30,000 feet (9,100 m) may cause a drop in oxygen saturation that can significantly impair cognitive functioning and increase the amount of time required to complete complex tasks.

A more gradual decompression could have resulted from other possible causes, such as a smaller leak in the pressure vessel or a closed flow control valve. Safety Board testing determined that a closed flow control valve would cause complete depressurization to the airplane’s flight altitude over a period of several minutes. However, without supplemental oxygen, substantial adverse effects on cognitive and motor skills would have been expected soon after the first clear indication of decompression (the cabin altitude warning), when the cabin altitude reached 10,000 feet (3,000 m) (which could have occurred in about 30 seconds).

Investigations of other accidents in which flight crews attempted to diagnose a pressurization problem or initiate emergency pressurization instead of immediately donning oxygen masks following a cabin altitude alert have revealed that, even with a relatively gradual rate of depressurization, pilots have rapidly lost cognitive or motor abilities to effectively troubleshoot the problem or don their masks shortly thereafter. In this accident, the flight crew’s failure to obtain supplemental oxygen in time to avoid incapacitation could be explained by a delay in donning oxygen masks of only a few seconds in the case of an explosive or rapid decompression or a slightly longer delay in the case of a gradual decompression.

In summary, the Safety Board was unable to determine why the flight crew could not, or did not, receive supplemental oxygen in sufficient time and/or adequate concentration to avoid hypoxia and incapacitation.[1]

Conclusions from the investigation of the Payne Stewart accident. And my hypothesis....Hey mines as good as anyone’s


63 posted on 03/18/2014 11:52:34 AM PDT by saleman
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To: rxsid

If the pilot was smart enough to pull this off, he would be smart enough to ditch any/all evidence of where he was going. Or at least try to.

There are three big reasons why that flight sim (heck, even the whole computer) would have been found as it was: he was stupid, he wanted to distract from his real destination or he was coerced and wanted to leave bread crumbs.


64 posted on 03/18/2014 12:03:20 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: saleman

There is NO comparison between these two airplanes. The SIZE difference makes comparison unviable.


65 posted on 03/18/2014 12:14:53 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman
I'm sure no expert. But cabin de-pressurization is the same big plane or small. Hypoxia is the same no matter what size plane. Systems are, I'm sure, different. But my bet is on catastrophic depressurization. The cause of which, I have no idea. Causing disorientation and then unconsciousness. Then the plane just flies on until it runs out of fuel.

Or, it could be Aliens. Or it flew into a parallel dimension. Or......

66 posted on 03/18/2014 12:24:40 PM PDT by saleman
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To: bryan999; maggief; outpostinmass2; WildHighlander57; Jim Robinson; LucyT

Bringing it all together here!
.....
outpostinmass. Please elaborate on this post from another thread: how did you come to that conclusion

To: outpostinmass2
It looks like it was headed fo Gan International airport in Maldives
43 posted on March 18, 2014, 12:34:40 PM EDT by outpostinmass2

Xxxxxxx
Maggie will you post your information here too


67 posted on 03/18/2014 12:25:18 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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Maldives matches this report in which they found Maldives runways loaded into the pilot’s flight simulator:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3134413/posts


68 posted on 03/18/2014 12:28:07 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: outpostinmass2

Actually I tend to believe the “eye witnesses”. They know an airplane when they see one up close. They know whether planes routinely fly that low over their island or not. Very, very loud means the engines were running. Being that low, the plane was either going to land or crash. If the timeline and the direction fit, then why would anyone be looking anywhere else?

It is reported that no plane should have been in the area at the time. They described the plane they saw as being white with markings consistent with Malaysian Airlines MH370.


69 posted on 03/18/2014 12:28:10 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: outpostinmass2; maggief; WildHighlander57

Good you are already here with an explanation
Simple a matter a drawing a straight line from ... A to B


70 posted on 03/18/2014 12:34:07 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama; maggief; LucyT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3134508/posts?page=43#43

Link to other thread


71 posted on 03/18/2014 12:36:22 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: hoosiermama

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-live-3254541#ixzz2wL7qcsAl

5:38 pm
BREAKING NEWS

People living in the Maldives claim to have seen a “low flying jet” going over one of the islands on the morning of the disappearance of flight MH370.

Local website Haveeru says several residents report the sighting at around 6.15am on March 8.

They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which would roughly match a Malaysia Airlines aircraft.

“I’ve never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We’ve seen seaplanes, but I’m sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly,” said an eyewitness.

“It’s not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too.”

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3134563/posts

Montol said that at 1:28 a.m., Thai military radar “was able to detect a signal, which was not a normal signal, of a plane flying in the direction opposite from the MH370 plane,” back toward Kuala Lumpur. The plane later turned right, toward Butterworth, a Malaysian city along the Strait of Malacca. The radar signal was infrequent and did not include any data such as the flight number.

He said he didn’t know exactly when Thai radar last detected the plane. Malaysian officials have said Flight 370 was last detected by their own military radar at 2:14 a.m.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Butterworth,+Penang/@1.964772,92.1131727,5z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x304ac5069ac06373:0x


72 posted on 03/18/2014 12:43:09 PM PDT by maggief
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To: bryan999; a fool in paradise

I don’t wanna hijack the thread, but the Maldives should really go back to Argentina!


73 posted on 03/18/2014 12:45:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: bryan999

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3134508/posts?page=43#43

Link to other thread


74 posted on 03/18/2014 12:45:27 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: maggief

Maldives is small and on the way to Somalia.

Why would the plane need to fly low over them way out in the middle of nowhere??


75 posted on 03/18/2014 12:51:12 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: hoosiermama

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/18/flight-mh370-residents-on-remote-island-in-maldives-saw-jet-matching-missing-malaysia-airlines-planes-description-4640688/

Several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo, in Dhaalu Atoll, said they saw a white aircraft with red stripes flying so low over the island the plane’s doors were clearly visible.

Islanders claim they were disturbed by an incredibly loud noise at about 6.15am local time on March 8 and saw a plane travelling from north to south-east, towards Addu – the southern tip of Maldives, it is reported.


Kuda Huvadhoo is northwest of Gan International airport. I would guess the plane ran out of fuel and is in the ocean between Kuda Huvadhoo and Gan International airport.


76 posted on 03/18/2014 1:30:55 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: angcat

Except when a 30-50ft tsunami comes through the neighborhood. Not much high ground to get to.


77 posted on 03/18/2014 1:52:42 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: outpostinmass2; maggief

Wish there was someone you could contact. You certainly have been on target thus far

Maggie do you still have the link to the site that would enable us to take a peek!


78 posted on 03/18/2014 1:55:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

http://www.haveeru.com.mv


79 posted on 03/18/2014 2:13:56 PM PDT by maggief
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To: outpostinmass2; hoosiermama; WildHighlander57

http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/54067

Maldives police on Tuesday announced an investigation into reports that residents of the remote Maldives island of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll have seen a “low flying jumbo jet” on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

But the police did not reveal any details.

Whilst the disappearance of the Boeing 777 jet, carrying 239 passengers has left the whole world in bewilderment, several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a “low flying jumbo jet” at around 6:15am on March 8.

They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.

Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling North to South-East, towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. They also noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.

A local aviation expert told Haveeru that it is “likely” for MH370 to have flown over the Maldives. The possibility of any aircraft flying over the island at the reported time is extremely low, the expert added.


80 posted on 03/18/2014 2:27:50 PM PDT by maggief
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