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Is the U.S. Air Force really necessary?
World ^ | March 17, 2014 | Michael Cochrane

Posted on 03/17/2014 12:37:23 PM PDT by xzins

Robert Farley, a political science professor at the University of Kentucky, wants to ground the U.S. Air Force, for good.

In his book, Grounded: The Case for Abolishing the US Air Force, Farley argues the United States does not need an independent Air Force in order to effectively wield military air power. Farley, an assistant professor at the Patterson School of Diplomacy and International Commerce, came to his conclusion after studying the conflict between the Army and the Air Force over which military branch was primarily responsible for winning the first Gulf War.

“I slowly became more aware that these arguments between the Army and the Air Force have broken out along virtually identical lines after every conflict we’ve fought since World War II,” Farley said. “Each service, each capability, claims its own decisive role.”

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Farley argues that inter-service rivalries and different interpretations of combat effectiveness have had such a negative effect on both doctrine and weapons system acquisition over the decades that the Army and the Air Force are unprepared to cooperate with each other next time America goes to war.

“That got me thinking, why not just re-marry these organizations rather than maintain their distinction?” he said.

The U.S. Air Force, originally the Army Air Corps, was established as an independent military service in 1947. Over the next four decades, as conflicts over Army and Air Force roles and missions emerged, Congress stepped in and passed the Goldwater-Nichols DoD Reorganization Act of 1986, the most far-reaching legislation affecting the U.S. military since the National Security Act of 1947. By vesting operational command of U.S. forces with a joint commander, Goldwater-Nichols sought to mitigate much of the inter-service rivalry.

But, according to Farley, Goldwater-Nichols failed to solve the dual problems of procurement and training. By law, the services have their own budgets for acquiring weapons and recruiting and training personnel.

“The primary responsibility of an Air Force aviator still lies with the … parochial interests of the Air Force and for a soldier with [those] of the Army,” Farley said. “And that’s a position that I think inevitably creates friction during wartime, which we’ve seen even in conflicts that come after the 1986 Goldwater-Nichols reform.”

Piecemeal approaches to transferring missions and capabilities from the Air Force to the Army have been proposed before, particularly with close-air support aircraft like drones, and the A-10, which the Air Force wants to retire.

“It would seem to be a fabulous idea to take away these capabilities that the Air Force is unenthusiastic about,” Farley said. But the Air Force routinely opposes giving them up. “There’s a general Air Force lack of enthusiasm about drones unless there’s a prospect of the Army having them,” he said.

The best solution to such problems—and the proverbial “elephant in the room”—is to rejoin the Air Force with the Army, Farley said. Although not likely in the short term, Farley thinks it might eventually become a reality.

“I’m trying to reopen the question of whether the reform we did in 1947 was really the appropriate reform and whether we should return to it and rethink it,” he said.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airforce; army; bhodod; usaf; usmilitary
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To: ctdonath2
For any organization, consider its core purpose

Not quite. The core purpose of the USAF is to sustain and preserve the USAF. A similar statement can be made for the other services.

On the other hand, if you had said, "For any organization, consider its core mission I would have agreed - though I disagree with the 'purposes' or 'missions' you identified.

The core mission of the USN is to project power from the sea. This has a three-dimensional nature and requires effective application of surface, subsurface, and airborne/spaceborne force. The weapons should follow the mission, and it makes as little sense to say that only the USAF can have fixed wing aircraft (operating from land bases) as it does to say that only the Army can have rifles.

Similarly, the core mission of the US Army is to project power from the land. It should have whatever weapons make sense to achieve that mission.

Air superiority (or supremacy) is not an end in itself, but a necessary means to the end of successful power projection. If "all the USAF does" is to support the Army mission, then we would be better off if it were part of the Army.

I think a case can be made that there is a further mission area - long-range power projection - that is best served with a separate service. If that were to become the USAF mission then they would keep their B-1s and B-2s and ICBMs while allowing the Army to perform close air support with whatever weapons are most effective for that - whether fixed or rotary wing, or tube artillery, or surface-to-surface rockets.

Let the weapon follow the mission - don't have the weapon become an end in itself.
121 posted on 03/17/2014 3:44:05 PM PDT by Phlyer
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To: Grampa Dave

Merge it with the Army—For the Army Air Corp.


122 posted on 03/17/2014 3:44:07 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: tanknetter

Relax, real life isn’t a movie where every special ops GI has to win every fistfight with his drinking buddies.


123 posted on 03/17/2014 3:44:22 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Absolutely disagree.


124 posted on 03/17/2014 3:52:48 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: ansel12

Yeah that’s what I was thinking g when the north Korean spies were trying to kidnap me. Gee I wonder what my tee time is?


125 posted on 03/17/2014 3:56:15 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ansel12

About 60% of the POWs from the Vietnam War were AIR FORCE fighter pilots. The majority of the rest Navy fighter pilots. Don’t want to hear this BS that the Air Force has no role in today’s military. When you have competent presidents, and competent Sec of Defenses the Air Force certainly has a role. The US Air Force is the air warfare service branch of the United States Armed Forces. That sorry Rumsfeld is the one that came up with the braindead decision to not use the Air Force much in the current never-ending wars in the Middle East, and to make all services look like clones of each other. Without a doubt the dumbest thing the Dept of Defense ever done was make all service wear that same desert camouflage BDU as their uniform of the day. Every time I go to an Air Force base and see all the Air Force personnel walking around looking like they work for a Red Horse squadron I can’t believe what I’m seeing. Nothing remotely resembling what the Air Force looked like for 50 years after it’s birth in 1947. I asked one young airman did he ever wear blues anymore and he looked at me like I was crazy.


126 posted on 03/17/2014 4:02:21 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: xzins

Any idiot that think the AF is just “air power” is...well, an idiot.


127 posted on 03/17/2014 4:05:12 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: nevergore

“But what would happen to all the golf courses?????”

ROFL! Nice.


128 posted on 03/17/2014 4:09:34 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: driftdiver

“Who were the first guys into Afghanistan.”

The AF is usually the first boots on the ground in any combat region.


129 posted on 03/17/2014 4:14:58 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: xzins

No.


130 posted on 03/17/2014 4:15:10 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: NKP_Vet

Yep, the Air Force lost just under 2600 men.

Getting angry and preachy isn’t a defense for the Air Force.


131 posted on 03/17/2014 4:20:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: CodeToad; driftdiver

When I look at TACP sources, I keep seeing them accompanying Army.

“TACPs live, train, and deploy with the US Army units.

The Air Force specialists are assigned to Army combat maneuver units around the world. On a battlefield, they form a tactical air control party team that plans, requests and directs air strikes against enemy targets in close proximity to friendly forces. A TACP is generally a two-airman team, working in an Army ground unit and directing close air support firepower toward enemy targets on the ground.


132 posted on 03/17/2014 4:25:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
Well, gosh, ya read it on the Internet so it must be true because we all know no one can post anything on the internet that isn't 100% true.


133 posted on 03/17/2014 4:28:40 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: xzins

I won’t even read past the title line. If anyone thinks this - it’s not even worth listening to one single word they say.


134 posted on 03/17/2014 4:28:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: CodeToad

So you don’t have anything to say.


135 posted on 03/17/2014 4:36:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Alas Babylon!

If you get rid of the idea that the Air Force has airplanes that will deliver nuclear weapons to foreign cities as one of the arms of mutual assured destruction, then what really does the Air Force do?

We know that it really questionable how valuable it is as a long-range system for delivering nukes, and that is especially true in light of cruise missiles that can deliver a package with a square meter target.

Therefore, what does air superiority DO? Answer: it establishes the conditions throughout the entire battle space, so that victory can be won through all its dimensions.

In short, it is fire support in an age of much larger battle space. Anything flying close air support is part of the ongoing battle, and anything flying protection in the air above is simply a force protection measure in the air dimension of the battle space.


136 posted on 03/17/2014 4:37:50 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: ansel12

To you? No. I don’t talk to idiots. They tend to take you down to their level and beat you with experience.


137 posted on 03/17/2014 4:37:52 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: xzins

“If you get rid of the idea that the Air Force has airplanes that will deliver nuclear weapons to foreign cities as one of the arms of mutual assured destruction, then what really does the Air Force do?”

Anyone that makes that type of ignorant comment as to what the AF does has no sense even thinking such a thing as removing it.


138 posted on 03/17/2014 4:38:57 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: ansel12
Relax, real life isn’t a movie where every special ops GI has to win every fistfight with his drinking buddies.

Dude, chill. Do I look like Jesse Ventura?

(short answer, since you can't see what I look like, is "no.")
139 posted on 03/17/2014 4:39:16 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Star Traveler

This is a long standing discussion.

Why not have a submarine service separate from the Navy since they travel in the dimension under the sea?

Why not have the Air Force be the service on aircraft carrier decks? Why have a Marine Air Force separate from the Air Force?


140 posted on 03/17/2014 4:40:39 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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