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1 posted on 03/17/2014 11:17:11 AM PDT by Strategy
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Your globalist financial oligarchy dollars at work.


53 posted on 03/17/2014 12:30:16 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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Ukraine might want to consider the fate of Fort Sumter: a military presence in a seceded region.

Pulling out may suck mightily, but continued presence is just asking for trouble. Think carefully about whether trouble is desired...


67 posted on 03/17/2014 1:09:37 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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Your call but you do it alone.


73 posted on 03/17/2014 1:16:17 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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Don’t know how many will follow the orders.

Many Ukrainian troops are confused on who is running the show .


77 posted on 03/17/2014 1:35:38 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Well, I guess that Obama can send his cupcake (Kerry) to negotiate another treaty with that steak knife (Lavarov) from the USSR...


94 posted on 03/17/2014 2:35:34 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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Ukraine Gov. is not in any way making the calls here....it is all outside entities determining whatever posturing they take.....including the military.


96 posted on 03/17/2014 2:48:53 PM PDT by caww
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What is important here is whether the Ukrainian military has two specific weapons systems:

* ground to air shoulder fired missiles like a Strela or Stinger. If so, it’s a game changer re airborne assault and attacks.

* Serious anti-tank/armor missiles, either shoulder fired or vehicle mounted (for quick shoot and scoot operations).

* Also, if they have any Soviet Quad AA guns, the really serious stuff that is both used from stationary positions and from trucks.

*Some decent artillery wouldn’t hurt either, be it large-sized mortars or field artillery (105’s on up).

The Russians might win but at what cost in men, equipment, and even homefront public opinion. Many remember what happened in Afghanistan when the Stingers came into play. Lots of pilots and planed ended up buried in the valleys and hills there. Thoroughly cramped the assault style of the Spetsnaz troops.

* Their own Special Forces commando troops for harassment, ambushes, IEDs, etc.

A lot of Ifs but only time will tell. Since some former Israeli Defense Force soldiers are reportedly helping the Ukrainians, I suspect that the Russians will be in for a few painful surprises.

Also wouldn’t be surprised to find some Moslem jihadists getting a few shots in at the Russians. Memories of Afghanistan are long and hard.

Things are going to get very interesting very quickly.

And of course, John Kerry is going to bring his Swift Boat to bear on the Russian Navy in a show of “gunboat diplomacy”. Hope he brings his rubbery ducky with him for good luck.


105 posted on 03/17/2014 3:43:24 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Ukraine should butch up, seal off the Crimea and close their borders. I’m afraid some blood must be spilled for this to become real.


116 posted on 03/17/2014 5:59:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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I would like someone to tell me what Obama meant when he told Putin he would have more flexibility after the election.

Was it a promise not to do anything of import when Putin made his land grab?

139 posted on 03/18/2014 6:18:42 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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