To: ansel12
“States dont make the laws that I just brought up on abortion, marriage and immigration and employment at the federal level.”
Duh! Rand Paul is saying that he believes the states SHOULD decide on Gay marriage. Not the Federal govt. I agree. A lot of other conservative republicans agree with that and they are not Libertarians.
Whether Rand Paul is a Libertarian remains to be seen and everygody will have to make up their own mind as the campaign unfolds. So far he’s been a pretty good republican and other than immigration and endorsing Mitch I don’t have a big problem with him at the moment.
Just remember Sarah Palin endorsing Mcstain. Now that was a blooper.
94 posted on
03/14/2014 5:37:20 PM PDT by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
To: Georgia Girl 2
Duh! Rand Paul is saying that he believes the states SHOULD decide on Gay marriage. Not the Federal govt. I agree. Duh? No kidding. Read post 60 again, ""The feds recognizing state gay marriages, and abortion on federal land, gay marriage and immigration, we know that libertarian means liberal on social issues at all levels of government and American culture.
States dont make the laws that I just brought up on abortion, marriage and immigration and employment at the federal level.""
Which state makes the federal law on gay marriage and abortion for it's employees and the military and immigration, Massachusetts? Which state decides military and immigration and federal employee law?
That is why we need conservative politicians and a party platform, fighting gay marriage, not libertarians pushing gay marriage and wanting to change the party platform and convince conservatives to support more liberal candidates.
95 posted on
03/14/2014 5:59:58 PM PDT by
ansel12
((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
To: Georgia Girl 2; ansel12
Duh! Rand Paul is saying that he believes the states SHOULD decide on Gay marriage. Not the Federal govt. I agree. A lot of other conservative republicans agree with that and they are not Libertarians.
Your problem, and Rand Paul's problem, is that State's rights solution is a phony solution that actually leads to a 50 state Gay Marriage ruling by the supreme court.
Precisely because of the 14th Amendment's "Equal Protection Clause" and the activist judges that inhabit each and every level of the Federal Judiciary.
It's a phony solution, because any member of Congress understands this.
If Rand Paul was truly, honestly, and sincerely against both Abortion and Gay Marriage, his only position would be to propose and loudly support Constitutional Amendments for each thereby removing from Judicial and/or congressional tinkering.
He has never proposed that precisely because he is a Libertarian, and to do so, would completely anger his true base: Libertarians.
One other thing, until he takes this tack, his proclamation of being a Christian is an empty one, because you cannot be a Christian and put your politics above your Christianity.
105 posted on
03/15/2014 10:00:16 PM PDT by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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