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Hong Kong pilot spots debris in Vietnamese waters
CCTV English ^ | 03-11-2014 0617 bjt | James

Posted on 03/11/2014 3:51:38 PM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: tractorman

What we have is the world conspiring to make this disappear. It was ,of course, a bomb from an Muslim. This makes governments look impotent and airlines expose to devastating attacks— Bad for commerce and brings the Islamic war against non believers to the stage. Then Governments have to do something. I will bet that we have a credible claim accepting responsibility from a Salafist or Wahhabi organize crime group right now and we are covering it up!! Then a pilot sees the obvious over the same place the plane was last seen on civilian radar. But what about the “military radar” well radar is radar so I knew one of them was lying. The Military was being guided by the Malaysian government anxious not to inhibit the 3 million traveler passing through Kuala Lampur air port.
After all the war on Extremists is “over”according to Nobomba. Therefore this cannot be a bomb— an act of terror. What is was sheeple was an alien abduction. No oil slicks!! ( were there not two huge oil slicks?) — no debris. JUST VANISHED!!! DATS IT!!


201 posted on 03/12/2014 12:12:06 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: SADMILLIE

Its a big world. It could happen. /s


202 posted on 03/12/2014 12:14:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

African or European?


203 posted on 03/12/2014 12:41:57 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Geese at 35000 feet?


204 posted on 03/12/2014 12:43:17 PM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: Talisker

Yeah, whatever.


205 posted on 03/12/2014 1:40:06 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn
Yeah, whatever.

Finally you speak your truth.

206 posted on 03/12/2014 1:54:34 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Enjoy the Kool-Aid.


207 posted on 03/12/2014 2:06:29 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn
Enjoy the Kool-Aid.

Says the person with stock in Kool-Aid.

208 posted on 03/12/2014 2:24:02 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Seems you’re taking this too personally. Did you know someone on the flight?


209 posted on 03/12/2014 2:25:46 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn
Seems you’re taking this too personally. Did you know someone on the flight?

I was going to ask you the same thing. What a coincidence.

210 posted on 03/12/2014 2:38:35 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: diogenes ghost

Been waiting all day to chime in. My background is aviation and I am also involved with missile testing and rocket launches. I also happened to meet one of the investigators of the wreckage a few years ago.

A B52 blew up because of a fuel quantity problem. Three workers from the class behind me in tech school died in the explosion. A C141 caught on fire because of a technician running a fuel pump in an empty tank. The hull was a total loss. The flightline ramps cameras caught everything on tape and it only took 5 minutes to totally destroy the airframe.

During rocket launches, Atlas, deltas etc, even if you are looking in the right direction the odds of seeing one is 50%. An Atlas or delta is about 150 feet long and 12 feet in diameter. I have seen launches from as close as 2 miles away. At that distance you can barely make out the white painted rocket.

If you watch a launch from around ten miles away all you see is a bright speck of light. You cannot see the missiles body. Even when the rockets or missiles are moving really fast they don’t seem to be from a ground observers position.

I have read almost all of the eye witness statements from TWA 800 accident. One of the most telling is the Eastwind pilots account. He was at the same flight level heading directly towards 800. He says it looked like 800 had his landing lights on. (remember they were at altitude) He then said he turned his on and that is when 800 exploded. He never once mentioned anything else out of the ordinary.


211 posted on 03/12/2014 2:57:17 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: mulder1

Just meant ‘something other than Muslim’ happening that could drop a plane.

Perhaps the geese were in Colorado recently, did a couple too many bong hits and got...high?’ ...;)


212 posted on 03/12/2014 3:16:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: reaganaut

Well I....AHHHHHH!!!!!!! (thud) ;)


213 posted on 03/12/2014 3:22:13 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: tcrlaf
USAir 427

Oh, I remember that evening. Was on a USAir flight in the region. Weather was crystal clear. Received many, many calls from friends and family checking to see whether I was on that flight.

214 posted on 03/12/2014 3:28:07 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Talisker
As has been pointed out on this thread, over 200 eye-witnesses saw a missile. This isn’t an OES obedience training website.

They also did tests with groups of ten people in each group. The groups were at 1.5 miles all the way out to ten miles from the missile launching site.(this range covered all the eye witnesses accounts) Even though people knew where to look and what they were looking for some people in the groups could not see a missile. In the closest group not all ten saw a missile. They launched four or five missiles. They did not tell the groups how many missiles were launched. The groups were random volunteers from different walks of life.

215 posted on 03/12/2014 3:30:49 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: gaijin
dumped entire HIBACHIS full of briquettes, tossed flaming rags, etc into full tanks, 1/2 full tanks, almost empty tanks, and what did they get..? Nada --not a single explosion.

I agree, BUT...

We had a guy up here get killed recently, he was cutting up an empty fuel oil tank with a torch.

216 posted on 03/12/2014 3:37:18 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: gaijin

The fuel quantity system can and have caused hull losses. A short that puts 115 instead of millivolts into the fuel system and KABOOM. It’s rare that this happens but it has. The circuit breakers prevents any catastrophe.

The fuel pumps can cause an explosion if they are ran without fuel in the tanks. Aircraft have all types of warnings and safety features to prevent this but its not impossible.


217 posted on 03/12/2014 3:56:00 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

Cites, please.


218 posted on 03/12/2014 3:56:36 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Look up the final report of TWA 800. I have it at work, I’ll have to send it to myself as the work system don’t allow Freerepublic. I can look but not post.

From personal experience I can tell you that it would be impossible to see any type of shoulder fired missile unless you are about a mile away. The only way we see rocket launches are on a perfect day with no clouds. Keep in mind that most missiles are not at boost phase all the way to the target. Motor burn out is in seconds and momentum takes care of the rest. A big rocket like an Atlas or Delta is in boost phase until it’s too small to see with the naked eye.


219 posted on 03/12/2014 4:03:26 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

As well, this would be an absolutely incredibly brazen straw man argument. About the only thing that could be claimed in it is that because some of the straw man group didn’t recognize a missile, none of the actually witnesses did.

Please.

And that doesn’t even start to go into matching all of the crieteria to make the test relevant, or its denial of the witnesses trained in observation and even military ID, or the tight corroboration between each of the witness stories.

In the end, a cause is claimed that has NEVER been observed before or since, and that can and has been demonstrated to be literally almost impossible to replicate because of known chemistry and physics principles.

And a massive number of eye-witness testimonies have simply been thrown out without any justification.

And anyone who questions these or other (and there are many other) evidenciary facts, are intensely verbally abused and slandered.

Oh, and one more thing. This took place during the Clinton years, aaaand...

Hillary is running YET again.

What a fricking coincidence.


220 posted on 03/12/2014 4:09:25 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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