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The Marriage of Obama's Parents: 'In Name Only'?
American Thinker ^ | March 8, 2014 | Shawn Glasco

Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome

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To: Brown Deer

Especially since I cannot hear Zero’s voice without almost vomiting. And when I heard he had given a speech at the Dem convention and his “father was a Kenyan goatherder” I knew something very weird and bad was waiting in the wings.


321 posted on 03/10/2014 12:49:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; Brown Deer

I read several paragraphs of the book and, as I recall, it was so graphic I couldn’t read any more. Definitely pornographic and not my preferred choice of literature.


322 posted on 03/10/2014 12:59:06 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Jonah Vark; little jeremiah

You still didn’t answer my question. I already know what she said.


323 posted on 03/10/2014 1:06:42 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Your question to me was
“Where was it said that the book was written before Ann was born?”

I’d like to know the answer to that question too.


324 posted on 03/10/2014 1:22:04 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Jonah Vark

One day when I have more time to waste than I have now, I’ll try to find the article in which Frank’s editor makes it clear just when that book was written. The paragraph about ‘Ann’ was written about a young girl while Frank was still married to his first wife. He married again before he came to Hawaii in 1948.


325 posted on 03/10/2014 1:24:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: punchamullah

http://www.subud-sica.org/index.php?hkat=4&ukat=10

Spiritual Advisor is how she refers to herself. She apparently had some sort of revelation from ‘above’ that she was to take over after her father died...


326 posted on 03/10/2014 1:26:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Jonah Vark
You wrote: "Do you have documentation that FMD wrote the book before Ann was born? It wasn’t published until 1968."

I asked: "Where was it said that the book was written before Ann was born?

and now you say: "I’d like to know the answer to that question too."

So, why did YOU ask for documentation that the book was written before Ann was born, if nobody ever made that statement?
327 posted on 03/10/2014 1:30:03 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

He married his first wife, Thelma Boyd on July 12, 1931 in Atlanta, Georgia.


328 posted on 03/10/2014 1:32:32 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: little jeremiah; Brown Deer; GregNH
It's in the book Maraniss wrote iirc, seems the kenyan told an acquaintance at the East West Centre how disappointed he was that Kezia had a child to another man while he was away. That alone, might just be self-serving, however, you have 'granny' Sarah telling some of the children of Kezia (in 'Dreams') none of you are his children which Auma, in the book, then explains that the old lady had a hard life and she's just jealous...

All that might mean nothing, but when you take into account that Kezia herself has stated she worked as a waitress in Mombasa, it begins to come together...why there might have been an Obama birth in Mombasa in 1961, (iirc, it was in October) and why, if Hillary did search the UK archives as has been suggested, she might have been disappointed.

329 posted on 03/10/2014 1:34:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: ckilmer
...FMD refers to a girl in his writing as Ann.

Google: ann
About 184,000,000 results (0.48 seconds)

Search Results from Historical Records
1-75 of 250,017,897 results for Name: ann
330 posted on 03/10/2014 1:45:42 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html

It’s all in this article...but even more interesting is the statement that there is no reference to either Stanley Armour Dunham or the kenyan student amongst the records and papers of Frank Marshall Davis. That kinda fits with my theory that he never actually knew either of them personally.
We have never seen anything that places them in the same location together at any time.

Other than the story told by the woman Weatherly-Williams who maintains she was there on a day in 1971 when Stanley Armour brought zero to visit Davis, and a much later anecdote that zero was seen with Davis as a teenager, selling drugs from a hot-dog cart...

The Dunham/Davis friendship is probably just another fabrication.


331 posted on 03/10/2014 1:46:35 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Jonah Vark; ckilmer; little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; GregNH
"One chapter concerns the seduction by Mr. Davis and his first wife of a 13-year-old girl called Anne. Mr. Davis wrote that it was the girl who had suggested he had sex with her.

Frank Marshall Davis married his second wife, Helen Canfield Peck on May 11, 1946. Stanley Ann Dunham turned 13 on November 29, 1955.

The entire book is here.
332 posted on 03/10/2014 2:07:50 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Quite a few “Anns” in the world, aren’t there.


333 posted on 03/10/2014 2:13:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

It’s all in this article...but even more interesting is the statement that there is no reference to either Stanley Armour Dunham or the kenyan student amongst the records and papers of Frank Marshall Davis. That kinda fits with my theory that he never actually knew either of them personally.
We have never seen anything that places them in the same location together at any time.

Other than the story told by the woman Weatherly-Williams who maintains she was there on a day in 1971 when Stanley Armour brought zero to visit Davis, and a much later anecdote that zero was seen with Davis as a teenager, selling drugs from a hot-dog cart...

The Dunham/Davis friendship is probably just another fabrication.


That’s interesting; I didn’t realize that in all of FMD’s papers there was not a mention of any of the Dunhams. That makes me wonder why people fabricated a Stanley Armour/FMD buddy-hood.

They must have had a reason for doing that. The only thing I can think of is to set the stage for a “FMD is the father” scenario in case the Kenyan father story unraveled. Two US citizen parents would be preferable to other alternatives, and we discussed that maybe that was the reason for pushing FMD as a father surfaced in the first place. The more evidence was found that Stanley Ann’s and the Kenyan 0bama’s paths never crossed in the early 60s, the more need for providing an alternate father story.

I wonder who paid Gilbertson to make his mockumentary....


334 posted on 03/10/2014 2:17:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

What you posit sounds very likely.


335 posted on 03/10/2014 2:18:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Jonah Vark

“Where was it said that the book was written before Ann was born?”

I’d like to know the answer to that question too.


My comment was that the incident with a girl named Ann happened before Stanley Ann was born. I may have been wrong about that, but whatever happened to the poor unfortunate Ann, it happened during FMD’s first marriage, and the dates for his second marriage are above some place. So the incident with a girl named Ann (if it happened at all which I hope not), happened either before Stanley Ann was born, or when she was a small child.

No one made a comment about the date of when the book was written. Basically, there is not only no evidence that the “Ann” in the book could have been Stanley Ann, it is actually impossible to have been her, as the dates are entirely wrong (for starters).


336 posted on 03/10/2014 2:22:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Brown Deer

Something that just occurred to me. Why did the author of this silly article keep calling Stanley Ann just “Ann”? Weird.


337 posted on 03/10/2014 2:23:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks; little jeremiah
Since all the names in Frank's are fictitious, then it is probably unlikely that the girl in his book was even named "Anne". ;-)

On the last page of the chapter it says,

The clouds of World War II hovered and Anne's aunt had already announced she would be returned to her family in Jamaica...

Later I learned that soon after reaching home she was knocked up by a Chinese merchant who paid her several thousand dollars to keep quiet. After V-J day in 1945 she returned to the U.S.


Stanley Ann Dunham was an infant during WWII. ;-)
338 posted on 03/10/2014 2:29:10 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

I just glanced through it...anyone who wants to believe it’s an autobiography is welcome to it...published in 1968, after his paper supply business burnt down and he was selling calendars door-to-door was it? After the communist newspaper he wrote for was wound up, iicr, shortly after which Helen left him for a musician...

And they still call him a poet?

I think I have an idea what he was good for. As head of an organisation known as THE PROTECTION OF THE FOREIGN BORN he was perfectly positioned to create an ID for an unidentified child which arrived in Hawaii with Stanley Ann Dunham in 1963.


339 posted on 03/10/2014 2:30:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Brown Deer

Davis and the Committee for Protection of Foreign Born

One of the longest lived Communist Party USA fronts was the American Committee for Protection of Foreign Born . Active from 1935 until 1980, the ACFPFB was charged with preventing foreign born communists such Davis’s friend ILWU leader Harry Bridges from deportation.

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Frank_Marshall_Davis


340 posted on 03/10/2014 2:37:47 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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