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To: Berlin_Freeper; PapaBear3625; ResisTyr; caww

Not only is Putin talking about hiding his illegal invading military troops behind women and children... but he is also daring the Ukrainians to shoot them because he would like to see it!

This gets worse the more we understand it...

And really, who talks like this - “women and children and shooting” - in any context?
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Hey, brother, I don’t think you got my message (#56?). Putin was NOT talking about hiding his illegal invading military troops behind women and children and he was NOT daring the Ukrainians to shoot them because he would like to see it.

If anything, it’s just the opposite. He said any Ukes firing at Russian military would also be shooting at women and children, for whom (supposedly in Putin’s mind) the Russians are there for. So, if anyone gave that order, he (Putin) said let them try it. He will look for whoever gives that order. The implication being that he’d have them hunted down to pay for what they’d done, i.e. giving an order to shoot women and children.

Once again, here is EXACTLY what Putin said:

“Listen to me. Listen to me attentively. I want you to understand me unambiguously. If we take such a decision, only for the defense of Ukrainian citizens, and someone tries, one of these servicemen, they are shooting at their own people, for whom we’ll be standing, not (x1 moving?). Let them try to shoot women and children. I shall look for anyone making such an order in the Ukraine.” (End of audio.)

This was only getting worse if you ignored my previous posts or were trying to be provocative, which, FYI, you are coming across as. Or perhaps you’re Mr Levin, the translator at that Biz Review site…

As to who uses the phrase “women and children and shooting” in any context, I did in my original post, saying it’s not unusual for any military (like my former self) to get riled up if their mission is non-combatant evacuation or protection and the bad guys start shooting. At that point, they’re not just shooting at us, but at the innocent women and children.

FYI, there was NOTHING said about using people as human shields, nor was it implied.

If this comes off as my defending Putin, it’s not. I’m trying to defend the truth of what was actually said. As a career US military Russian interpreter, that’s what I did for 25 years.

Peace.
- Ivan


88 posted on 04/25/2014 6:47:47 PM PDT by IvanV (People sleep peacefully in bed at night because rough men stand ready to violence on their behalf.)
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To: IvanV; Berlin_Freeper

Ivans correct on this matter, Berlin Freeper.

I don’t believe that any want war in Ukraine....but I have no doubt Putin is not going to let Ukraine be run by the US or the EU as they are doing now.

I also believe he will not go into areas where he doesn’t have Russian’s supporting him. But he’s not going to bend to Obama, no way.


89 posted on 04/25/2014 7:00:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: IvanV
...they are shooting at their own people, for whom we’ll be standing, not (x1 moving?). Let them try to shoot women and children.
Your biased interpretation is not making any kind of good sense there Buddy. You might have some relevance here if Putin's actions (like removing insignias, the BS about Russians in danger and the actual broken promise not to invade) didn't speak louder than your cocked up words.

Nor are you making sense with this:

it’s not unusual for any military (like my former self) to get riled up if their mission is non-combatant evacuation or protection and the bad guys start shooting. At that point, they’re not just shooting at us, but at the innocent women and children.
There wasn't a single report in Crimea of any women or children in danger.

Don't know what your emotional problem accusing me of trying to be provocative is about, or speaking down to me that I must not have read the post I replied to. If you reply to me again a couple of months from now, pinging a support crowd to hold your hand, try to make minimal sense that connects with widely known events.

Oh yea and drop the arrogance that you are the authority here that can't be given a valid opposing view without making it personal.

Thanks Ivan.

91 posted on 04/25/2014 10:18:38 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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