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To: Heartlander

I certainly haven’t exaggerated the conflict between Catholics and Protestants on this site at least. Have you read through those threads? Of course I understand both are similar and embrace Jesus Christ.

I brought up slavery because someone mentioned that Atheists owe a debt of gratitude to the founders for establishing the country the way they did (based on Christian values). I get it. But they were also flawed men that owned slaves. Times change. And yes, Christians ended slavery but many Christians in the south didn’t want to end slavery.

I bring up Islam merely to point out the fact that literally billions of people disagree about religion. Every effort to disparage religion be it by Muslims against Jews, Christians against other types of Christians, or Atheists against everybody...does nothing to help Conservatism.

If someone comes to the conclusion that small government, less taxes, pro gun rights, pro life values are the best thing for this country then they are my ally. I don’t care how they arrived at that conclusion. If it was because of their religion...great. If they don’t believe in God...fine.

Let’s rally around conservative policy. Who ever champions those policies gets my vote. They could be a Catholic. Or a Protestant. Or an Atheist. I don’t care. Unfortunately, many people do care. Look what happened to Romney. How many people didn’t vote for him because he’s a Mormon? Many. Many Freepers for sure. I didn’t agree with all his stances, but can anyone with a straight face say he wouldn’t be better than the absolute cretin we have as a president now?

I will admit to one hypocrisy. Under now circumstances would I ever vote for any Muslim for any office. Not even dog catcher.

Hope people can see my point. You don’t need to agree with me. I love my country and have risked my life for it on multiple occasions over 20 years in the military. The state it’s in now is dreadful and I fear for my 3 young sons.

We have to defeat the Dems. Have to.


75 posted on 03/05/2014 5:52:07 PM PST by strider44
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To: strider44

People don’t disagree that God exists though, recognizing that God exists is universal.

You do keep going on against religion and the American founding though.

You can’t seem to learn that atheists despise the tea party, and are dedicated lefties.

While the Evangelical Christians are pro-tea party and dedicated conservatives.


76 posted on 03/05/2014 6:16:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: strider44
And yes, Christians ended slavery but many Christians in the south didn’t want to end slavery.

Certainly you can separate an individuals actions and a world view. What is the atheistic world view? Do you believe human consciousness ultimately came from mindlessness? Do you have an issue with the Amoral Manifesto?:

“Even though words like “sinful” and “evil” come naturally to the tongue as say a description of child molesting. They do not describe any actual properties of anything. There are no literal sins in the world because there is no literal God…nothing is literally right or wrong because there is no Morality…yet we human beings can still discover plenty of completely naturally explainable resources for motivating certain preferences. Thus enough of us are sufficiently averse to the molestation of children and would likely continue to be…( An Amoral Manifesto Part I )
Again, if you want to be an atheist - fine. If you want to vote conservative - great. If you think being an atheist somehow takes you out of a belief system and world view - you are mistaken.
81 posted on 03/05/2014 6:32:11 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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