[tomkat]

You have no voice without a means to defend it.

Without those, all your other battles are lost before they're begun.

[frogjerk]

While the 2nd amendment helps to secure the first it is not source of the first amendment. The first amendment is our first freedom given to us by God. Also, having the 2nd amendment is totally useless if the first doesn't exist. All of our rights need to be protected as vociferously as the 2nd amendment.

This is why some conservatives don't like the NRA because they have capitulated on other conservative principles (Supporting Harry Reid for one) and cannot see the forest for the trees sometimes.

[frogjerk]

You have no voice without a means to defend it. Without those, all your other battles are lost before they're begun.

There are plenty of people throughout history that had a voice without being behind a gun or holding a weapon. I'm not arguing that the 2nd amendment isn't a right and should be infringed. I'm just arguing don't denegrate or give up your other unalienable rights by ignoring those battles.