[A_perfect_lady]

American conservatism is based on the idea that individuals possess sovereign rights—the sovereign part means that the group cannot legitimately violate those rights merely for its own interests.

I see. But it isn't the Bible that outlines this concept, it's the Constitution.

Of course, you'll say that the Constitution does not grant these rights, merely outlines them and then claims they come from God.

Then I'll say they don't prove it comes from God.

Then you'll say that I cannot prove they come from anywhere else and that any attempt will be subjective rather than objective.

Then I'll say that claiming they come from an outside source isn't really being objective, it's simply drawing a line in the sand beyond which one refuses to argue.

Then you'll say that it accomplishes the same purpose, whereas subjectivity cannot.

Then I'll say that what it really boils down to is not how well you can justify your rights but how well you can back them up by a show of force, since our rights have been steadily eroded by Leftists for decades now, and claiming they come from God hasn't stopped this process...

I don't remember what happens after this part.

[reasonisfaith]

I detect a need to control the conversation, and to dictate when it ends. That’s okay.

But I can’t help myself, just one little comment. I don’t think rights can really have any meaning at all, if their value is measurable only by the weight of the subjective opinion of whoever has access to the most physical force at any time in history.