Posted on 02/22/2014 3:21:09 PM PST by callthemlikeyouseethem
The Republican brand is severely tarnished.
Currently just 25% of Americans identify themselves as Republicans. On the other hand, 38% of Americans identify themselves as conservative, which is more than any other ideological group by 15 points.
These numbers are prompting a national conversation about how to save the soul of the Republican Party among conservatives, or if the party is still worth saving at all.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
Then you would agree with this.
“You already have the libertarian and democrat party if you are a social liberal, conservatives will continue to fight to keep the GOP a conservative party, in fact more so, we are trying to turn it right, not left, as you are.”
Instead you label a conservatism that is liberal compared to 1960s America, as “”right-wing authoritarianism””.
Your position is supporting the left, and denigrating conservatism.
Your inability, or unwillingness to explain yourself, is your problem, not others.
I’ve been very clear in my self-explanation. You simply don’t WANT to understand.
Those aren’t liberties; those are targets for conservative Republicans at the state level of government.
How else do you think we are to recognize whether they are conservative, or not?
You described them as “liberties”.
Just as you claimed that the GOP in the 1850s, “” promised not to get involved in social matters.””.
You also seem to think that slavery was illegal according to the constitution, which would be a surprise to the slave owners writing it.
You made that up, most of what you post on this thread is made up>
You are clearly supporting federal recognition of gay marriage, abortion, and polygamy, as long as a state somewhere supports it.
The feds have to make decisions on those issues also, that is why congress decided on marriage laws at the federal level for the military in 1780, 1784, 1798, 1802, in other words, the original Congress, they have to decide on abortion law on military bases, they have marriage law regarding immigration and federal employment, etc.
Slavery and the female vote weren't listed in the Constitution, and neither is abortion, at least not yet.
YOU ARE A LIBERAL TROLL.
YOUR WHOLE PURPOSE HERE ON FREE REPUBLIC IS NOT TO DEBATE BUT TO PUT DOWN TRUE CONSERVATIVES AND AID THE PROGRESSIVES IN DEFEATING TRUE CONSERVATIVES.
The only thing I denigrate is authoritarianism, and there is plenty of that on the left and right. The left certainly has no monopoly in it...
Just read post 66 and respond to it, and this isn’t a site to debate with social liberals who want to support abortion and the homosexual agenda, and keep moving the GOP left.
No, since we can never become as conservative as America was before the 1960s, you clearly dislike traditional America, and then you continue the fight to move us left, by attacking the diluted conservatism of today, as “authoritarianism” even while we try to fight an authoritarian left which is close to total victory as marriage is destroyed, abortion routine, gays are marrying in the military, immigration is way beyond out of control, and all the rest of the left’s dreams and goals are being realized.
I don’t do any of those things you accuse me of, and nothing I have said indicates otherwise...
No, you haven’t been clear at all, you have been rambling and confused.
If you aren’t, then why did you start posting at me with a bizarre statement, bringing up out of the blue, “Replacing left-wing authoritarianism with right-wing authoritarianism is not the answer.”
Tyranny is the true enemy, and my experience has shown me that it can come from either side of of the establishment's handy-dandy fake political landscape.
One thing about the social liberals, they can talk in circles for days.
Fine, you and I and conservatives, are all against totalitarianism, you sure have a strange way of pointing that out, so strange that I still don’t think you are explaining why you leaped out with that bizarre post at me.
No one had brought up totalitarianism except you, yet out of the blue, you posted this Replacing left-wing authoritarianism with right-wing authoritarianism is not the answer. which had nothing to do with this thread.
That is my historical perspective.
Who knows what you are trying to say, you don’t want the left, and you don’t want the economic right holding power.
What about American history convinced you that economic conservatives are the threat?
This is very probably true. Only a troll would associate being against a social issues platform as equivalent to being pro-abortion.
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