Posted on 02/22/2014 3:21:09 PM PST by callthemlikeyouseethem
The “Republican” brand is severely tarnished.
Currently just 25% of Americans identify themselves as “Republicans.” On the other hand, 38% of Americans identify themselves as “conservative,” which is more than any other ideological group by 15 points.
These numbers are prompting a national conversation about how to “save the soul of the Republican Party” among conservatives, or if the party is still worth saving at all.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
In my humble opinion: I think we should throw the GOP in the trash can, and let the Tea Party forge ahead, BUT and there is a BUT: Only Tea Party people like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee can run the party....we don’t want GOP Rinos involved.....just saying....
I am much more interested in saving the soul of America than I am about saving the soul of the GOP...Karl Rove and his minions can go pound salt!
The GOP? Marriage law, abuse of women, slavery, were all GOP concerns, I have lost my source but even alcohol use by the Apache was a concern of the party founders.
Is the right to life legal or social or both?
RE: “38% of Americans identify themselves as “Conservative.”
Until we find some common agreement about the definition of “Conservative,” polls like this are useless.
I’ve seen polls where 60% of Hispanics describe themselves as “Conservative” and just 20% call themselves “Liberal.”
But - year in, year out - roughly 70% of Hispanics vote for the Democrat Party.
RE: “Stop importing everything.”
Does that include the 20 million Socialist voters we have imported since the Reagan Amnesty in 1986?
What they were concerned with, on a state level, was entirely different than on a national level.
Slavery was a violation of “all men are created equal” and was a Federal concern.
Marriage, alcohol, and women’s rights, were being addressed at the state level.
Alcohol use was addressed by Congress, then Constitutional amendments passed were later repealed.
Marriage and medicine are handled by the several states and are not in the purview of the U.S.Constitution.
No, the marriage issue was national when the GOP was started, there was a cult that was practicing polygamy.
The first federal law regarding marriage for the federal government was in 1780.
The party was a national party and just as today, the supporters of a party have the same concerns and interests regardless of the office being voted on.
The Apache treatment of women and use of alcohol was also a federal concern.
Many Americans lived in federal territories, not states.
Slavery was a state issue when the GOP was founded.
Only if that soul puts the welfare of the country first and foremost ahead of any other considerations.
Ah, but I’m dreaming — being a politician is such a lucrative business.
Ansel, the issues I brought up are clearly not powers the Federal Government possesses: marriage and medicine are not part of the Federal powers. Those are powers left for the states.
There have been many instances of Congress passing laws that are clearly not Constitutional - like ACA and DOMA.
As for slavery, it is a crime against God, and the Declaration of Independence clearly stated that all men are created equal; an inalienable right. The fact that some states had businessmen who made money trafficking in human bondage and misery, and based it all on unconstitutional state laws is not my concern.
You should know better.
You hit on the source of evil in today’s culture - the desire for money and wealth.
Some of the discussions I’ve had with “Republicans”, they don’t even know that they need to be saved. “It’s all the Tea Parties fault” or why do you want to tear down the party?
There is some work to be done.
Now you are abandoning that claim it looks like, I would like to see your source for the claim before you slip away from it.
Aside from your pro-abortion pro-gay support, that would be the end of the GOP, you social liberals already support the democrats, to the tune of about 80%.
You also don’t understand that conservative economics cannot exist with social liberalism, as long as we vote for our government. Sodom and Gomorrah isn’t going to vote for small government and low taxes and ending welfare.
If you knew anything whatsoever about me, you would know that’s a foolish statement. Abortion is a rights issue. Everyone has a right to life. And Ilm not pro-gay, I simply don’t care what people do to each other in bedrooms/hedgerows/etc.
Legal, purely.
It is now simply just dying a slow pathetic death.
Very sad but no stopping it.
The GOP is late to it's own funeral, but it is pining for the fjords.
I know that you get on a conservative political forum to try and get those conservatives to participate in your struggle to turn the pro-life pro-marriage party into a pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-liberal, no-God, party.
If you are against abortion, then you would be fighting to strengthen the pro-life position of the party, not end it.
A pro-life position is a legal one, not a social one. Like all of the other things you list. If you can’t oppose it on legal, rights-based grounds, you shouldn’t be fighting it.
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