Yes, Jesus would bake a cake for a gay person

Redstate,com ^ | 02/21/2014 | Erick Erickson

[aimhigh]

Jesus Christ would absolutely bake a cake for a gay person. He’d bake a cake for a straight person. He’d bake a cake for a girl, a boy, a person who isn’t sure what they are, a black person, a white person — Jesus would bake that cake if it, in some way large or small, drew that person closer to Him. . . . .

The disagreement comes on one issue only — should a Christian provide goods and services to a gay wedding. That’s it. We’re not talking about serving a meal at a restaurant. We’re not talking about baking a cake for a birthday party. We’re talking about a wedding, which millions of Christians view as a sacrament of the faith and other, mostly Protestant Christians, view as a relationship ordained by God to reflect a holy relationship. . .

You might think Jesus would bake a cake for a gay wedding. I think you are wrong because I don’t Christ would collaborate in sin.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Surely there were many people that Jesus encountered who were sleeping with women not their wives, and maybe even males. But the Bible does not record a single instance where Jesus put anybody to death.

And in the one case where we are explicitly told that he is dealing with a woman who had committed adultery, he stopped people from stoning her, and then sent her away.

I do believe that there are people here who, if they saw a man lying in the street bleeding out, and noticed they were gay, would actually let them die. But I don’t believe that is a necessary or even expected part of being a conservative.

People have value because God created them. And all have sinned, and if we used “sinner” as a reason to not provide services to people, we would never serve anybody anything.

[Olog-hai]

Were there women around doing the cooking mentioned in John 21:9? None are mentioned.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Jesus made wine for a wedding, and I’m pretty sure there were sinners at the wedding.

Jesus made loaves of bread for 5000 people, and I’m pretty sure there were sinners in the crowd.

Jesus washed the feat of his disciples, and they were sinners as well.

[Olog-hai]

Nobody said “sinner” by itself. The qualifier is repentant or unrepentant, and doing something deliberately for someone openly unrepentant makes one an “enabler”, to use modern parlance (take note of 2 John 1:11).

[swampfox101]

Jesus would say “sin NO MORE”......!

John 5:14
Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”

John 8:11
She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”

[Burkean]

I assume the bakeries find the issue to be with being asked to decorate the cakes in a way that makes it obvious that the wedding is two men or two women. Otherwise it’s just baking a cake and handing it over, and who knows what is done with it—whether it is used to trade with the neighborhood tramp for sex or feed the munchies after a drug party. Nobody asks them to decorate a cake for those cases. My suspicion has always been that the bakeries were being asked to put something they considered vulgar on the cake, which they likely wouldn’t do even in the case of a traditional marriage. Maybe they could just hand them a plain white cake and let them decorate it as they choose.

[CPO retired]

Yeah, baking a cake for a gay person is very different from backing it for a gay wedding. The Jesus I know wouldn’t acknowledge that as a “wedding”.

[CPO retired]

“Backing” = baking

[dennisw]

A pathetic cave by Red State which is run by Erick Erickson who was so gawd-awful subbing for Rush I turned it off

[Yosemitest]

There's a very good reason God said they "shall be cut off from among their people".
They work for Satan, and don't even know it.

This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For it is written:

“ For whosoever shall commit ANY of these abominations,
even the SOULS that commit them
SHALL BE CUT OFF from among their people. ”

Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.

It was given by our Heavenly Father to test us
to see ... if we will OBEY our Heavenly Father,
and abide by His commandments, statues, and ordinances.

Someone once asked

"Why are they [homosexuals] all so angry?"

The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE".

rep·ro·bate \ˈre-prə-ˌbāt\ a. [L. reprobatus, reprobo, to disallow; re and probo, to prove.]

1. Not enduring proof or trial; not of standard purity or fineness; disallowed; rejected.


Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the Lord hath rejected them. Jer. 6.




2. Abandoned in sin; lost to virtue or grace.

They profess that they know God, but in works deny him, being abominable and disobedient, and to every good work reprobate. Titus 1.

3. Abandoned to error, or in apostasy. 2Tim. 3.

And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

But will we OBEY our Heavenly Father?

"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect
that God is just,
that his justice cannot sleep forever."

[353FMG]

Jesus would never bake a cake — that was not the purpose of his coming.

The only record we have that He baked anything was AFTER His Resurrection when he had some fish on a fire inviting His Apostles to eat.

And I doubt that He even lit the fire.

[DJ MacWoW]

He’s right. Jesus ate with sinners in order to tell them the Good News but did NOT condone their sins.

[DJ MacWoW]

An epileptic ballet at that!!!

[DJ MacWoW]

Would you want to eat a cake baked by a carpenter? Just askin’.

Why not? He did well with wine. ;-)

[Chewbarkah]

The real question is: what gives the State the power to coerce Jesus into doing, or not doing, anything?

[daniel1212]

I believe Jesus would make it easier to post a comment on that site! But as re the issue, see FR thread, Does the Constitution Force Bakers to Bake?

In that case Phillips was not refusing to sell bcz the men were sodomites, and in fact Phillips said he would be happy to sell them brownies or other treats to serve at the reception, just not a wedding cake, as the event was morally objectionable to him. I am surprised he went so far as offering to sell anything for the reception.

In addition, while Colorado law was expanded to prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual preference (which must include animals) and gender identity - which was why the judge said he ruled for the sodomites - yet Colorado law discriminates against homosexuals by denying them marriage.

Thus the baker was acting consistent with Colorado's own interpretation of the extent of its antidiscrimination law. But here comes the judge, who might as well claim the devil made him do it.

Furthermore, as this is an issue of morality, then it is a religious issue as much as a legal one. Your faith determines your moral decisions.

And if the judge would not discriminate against the "gay wedding guys" because they are acting within the law, then would he say,

An Orthodox Jewish or a black bakery has to make a custom cake to celebrate a KKK convention?

Or a Christian company has to see equipment that will be used to produce abortions?

Or a evangelical has to make a special (if unsigned) advertising sign for a legal porn shop?

Or a artist (a decorated cake is) has to make a special sign, even if unsigned, for a customer who will use it for a immoral if legal celebration he/she disagrees with?

Or a liberal music artist has to sell music or a license to a Ted Cruz convention? (Romney was threatened with legal action even for dong so with music he had a license for, not that i support such music)

Or a devout Muslim baker sell buns to a hot dog stand?

A homosexual sign maker has to make and sell a custom made sign for a AFA event?

[DavidLSpud]

I want to be very careful about “creating words or actions” for Jesus...*

KJV ...*Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

KJV *And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

NIV “No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

KJV For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

KJV For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

NIV for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine.

repeat of Scripture above in the KJV
KJV For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine

KJV Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind

...

KJV And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

NIV No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.

NIV No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

KJV 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

biblegateway.com

BTW-My “PawPaw” was Cicero... known as C.W.-...probably safer than “a boy named Sue/Cicero”-He was old and wise.
...born before the previous century & was very “concerned” about what the Word of God said to the individual. Thank You Father Jehovah God for putting that GRANDfather in my life.

[Teacher317]

How about the FREEDOM to choose who to serve, versus the OPPRESSION of being forced to serve those you do not wish to serve?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Jesus Christ would absolutely bake a cake for a gay person. He’d bake a cake for a straight person. He’d bake a cake for a girl, a boy, a person who isn’t sure what they are, a black person, a white person — Jesus would bake that cake if it, in some way large or small, drew that person closer to Him. . . . .”

Yes, I like gay cakes and ham, Sam I Am!

[LibLieSlayer]

When a gay dies and faces CHRIST and remains steadfast that homosexuality is NOT a sin and is fine and that GOD accepts homosexuals and their unnatural sex acts... in exactly which direction do you think CHRIST will send them? What difference does a cake make?