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1 posted on 02/21/2014 4:56:27 PM PST by kristinn
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MOH affirmative action?

Gosh, next thing ya know they’ll be busting Asian and white kids for tiny infractions, the better to even out the stats, right...?

Oh, wait.


2 posted on 02/21/2014 5:03:06 PM PST by gaijin
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This reeks of propaganda Ted to coincide with the divide and conquer tactics of the regime

And Hillary’s cultural crusade should be suspected in all things now, including in the FCC deal

Blacks and Hidpanics do very well in the military and tgey are welcome in every unit. This headline is embarrassing and unnecessary to them. Whom does it serve


3 posted on 02/21/2014 5:03:54 PM PST by stanne
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God bless all of them, and many more.


4 posted on 02/21/2014 5:04:07 PM PST by Bogie
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It would be fair to review ALL DSC recipients, not just the special races, but that would result in too many white men receiving upgrades to the CMH.


5 posted on 02/21/2014 5:04:33 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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I dunno, Kris ... there may well have been prejudice against coloreds in WW2, but I don't remember any Jew hating or Spic hating at the time.

I think this is a ploy to soften the military pay/pension blow ... maybe just trying to appear military friendly

6 posted on 02/21/2014 5:04:55 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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Interesting. This fellow was a late recipient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibor_Rubin

He certainly was an awesome Jew. His story is kind of sad - his superior officer really did hate Jews and it was his buddies that finally went to the top.


7 posted on 02/21/2014 5:07:23 PM PST by golux
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forget all the political grandstanding ; let TODAYS soldiers , sailors , airmen and Marines WIN the damn war against radical Islam . END the ROEs ! .....they don’t seek medals , they need VICTORY !


8 posted on 02/21/2014 5:08:44 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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Shades of the 1890’s when corrupt politicians handed out MOH’s for farting in the direction of the Confederates during the Civil War. Many of them had to be revoked later because they didn't even come close to the standard set for the MOH.
11 posted on 02/21/2014 5:11:46 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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A lot of guys were put in for the MoH who didn’t get it for a variety of reasons, sometimes valid, sometimes petty. I’m glad to see past wrongs righted, but this seems, how should I say it...convenient? I wonder how after all these years they could tell.


12 posted on 02/21/2014 5:14:42 PM PST by PLMerite
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1984 plus 40 = 2014

Rewritting History - The Prophecy Comes True


13 posted on 02/21/2014 5:16:11 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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If they earned the award they should get it.Regardless of anything else.JMO


14 posted on 02/21/2014 5:16:48 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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Race, Race, Race

Obama is dumbing down everything

Just like the Nobel Committee did when they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize


15 posted on 02/21/2014 5:19:35 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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Charlie Rangel?


21 posted on 02/21/2014 5:39:25 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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The Medal of Honor is highly valued because the standards for an award are very high. Many have said that the services, especially the Army, have set the standards too high for the current wars and have injected Pentagon bureaucrats, politicians, and lawyers who have never heard a shot fired in anger into the process.

I think that the awards system is seriously out of whack and this is yet more evidence. By design, more Distinguished Service Crosses are awarded than Medals of Honor. You have to draw a line somewhere and the distinction is a very fine one. The Distinguished Service Cross requires a very high degree of valor, it is not some consolation prize.

We have done this twice before, for Blacks and for Japanese Americans. Now we are doing it again. The claim that these soldiers were slighted because of their race strikes me as questionable. Perhaps in some cases in World War II, many a few cases in Korea, I doubt that had much of an effect in Vietnam. A much more important factor is the unit. Some units made more awards and recommendations than did others. Some divisions were known as stingy, others passed them out more freely.

Some political weenie reading documents 40-70 years after the facts is not going to come up with a better result, unless the goal is to make political points. This debases the Medal of Honor.


22 posted on 02/21/2014 5:40:41 PM PST by centurion316
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More ignorance. They have to keep the hate going. Keep them on the plantation


23 posted on 02/21/2014 5:41:30 PM PST by Carry me back
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Any time you bring race into the equation, I immediately think of Affirmative Action. And in the case of these soldiers, I wonder if they were indeed worthy of the MOH......


25 posted on 02/21/2014 5:50:22 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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Lots to comment on here. Yes there was discrimination against Blacks, Jews and Hispanics in WW2, often by Patton and if correct, Mad Dog Smith (Marines) in the Pacific. Patton was admonished by Eisenhower for it after seeing how Jewish Displaced Persons were so badly treated in their housing and feeding in captured German towns (where German POWs lived in better houses than the DP’s).

Okay, shit happens, and when it can be corrected, not only “SHOULD” it be, it “MUST”. That is why soldiers and sailors and other servicement and women have “buddies”. That’s what buddies are for, to protect and help each other regardless of race, religion or ethnic origins.

The Lubin and Kravitz stories have been around for a long time. Glad to see that others are going to get their long due recognition.

Remember, the legislation for the metals review was passed and signed into law under the George Bush administration (2002). A “thanks” to all involved in this effort.

But also remember, Obama only uses MOH awards ceremonies as PhotoOps for his “Selfie” collection. He couldn’t give a flying shit about the soldiers themselves, or he would never have allowed the damned Rules of Engagement he literally signed off on, to be implimented in Iraq and esp. Afghanistan.

He would not have gone to sleep or play golf when the shit hit the fan in Benghazi.

He would not have allowed the ROE to prevent artillery and air support for the Manat Valley, Outpost Keating, and other operational debacles in Afghanistan. The Commander in Chief should have said” Provide our forces with all the support they need to win”, not to allow them to be picked off one at a time in ambushes which could have been defeated by good artillery and air support.

I don’t recall these restrictive and deadly ROEs in Nam. There were sensible ROEs regarding civilians in combat zones, but nothing like the Obama/Dempsey/Hagel et al handcuffing and killing our of military in Afghanistan.

PS: My son was ordered NOT TO FIRE on Mujaheedin terrorists in Iraq when his unit came under their fire BECAUSE THE TERRORISTS WERE USING WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS HUMAN SHIELDS. He had to “hunker down” and take the fire, not returning any, until he had a clear shot (and when he did, the enemy died - God bless the M249).

Our political, civilian and military leadership today is a disgrace to the Services, those who serve in them, and to our country.

A firing squad would be too dignified for those who deserve it, but, in reality, a long jail sentence in Leavenworth is still an option.


27 posted on 02/21/2014 5:53:55 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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My Father had a friend in WWII who was a New York Jew. One day the guy was reading a letter from home and remarked about how ironic something was.

It turned out one of his friends in New York had been killed in an accident. The ironic part was his parents had used political pull to keep him out of the draft.


28 posted on 02/21/2014 5:55:25 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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On June 21, 2000, President Clinton awarded the Medal of Honor to 22 Asian Americans, 20 of whom were Japanese American WWII veterans.

Interesting how two 'rat presidents with absolutely no prior military experience are handing out the MOH like candy to their faithful constituent base. Both these presidents lied about how they avoided military service.

29 posted on 02/21/2014 6:10:24 PM PST by BluH2o
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That is unacceptably sexist. Hillary needs to do a search for deserving women and award 24 MOH to women who served in the same time period.


30 posted on 02/21/2014 7:08:36 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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