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The Lesson of Dunkirk (Thomas Sowell's retreat strategy)
Creators Syndicate ^ | 2/20/14 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 02/20/2014 8:34:50 PM PST by P-Marlowe

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To: txhurl
I wanted to say it was racial, but I can't in good conscience believe that. It seems more likely that he is convinced that the entrenched Republicans attacking Cruz without mercy for months now, are right in doing so. He sees Cruz as a junior Senator who is doing what he does for the sake of a audience in the same way that a exhibitionist does.

Like the Washington elite class of republican hang wringers, he is afraid for the country but unwilling to stand up and stop the madness by going against the grain and demanding accountability from Obama in exchange for budgetary and legislative cooperation that you would naturally give a president who had any respect for the opposition party, which does NOT apply to Obama.

It matters not what Sowell’s skin color is, I think in this case or in any of his writings. I believe what matters to him regarding Cruz is the so called “Calmity” that once actually did exist in Congress and he longs for something that will never be reinstated as long as Zero sits in the Oval Office.

61 posted on 02/21/2014 12:58:45 AM PST by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: P-Marlowe

He makes good sense. When you occupy unfavorable territory and don’t have the strength to win today, it’s better to retreat, regroup and prepare to fight tomorrow.


62 posted on 02/21/2014 1:26:13 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

But the GOPe will not fight Democrats tomorrow either but they always fight conservatives


63 posted on 02/21/2014 1:32:06 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: fso301
So Cruz should:

"Retreat, regroup"....with who?
(I can count on hand the number of politicians who are willing to fight for our nation/Constitution.)

And:

"Prepare to fight tommorow."...how?
(With so few willing to fight?)

In the previous hit piece on Cruz Sowell gives dire warnings that Obamacare is really about the government gaining control over every citizen.

So then what does he make of Boehner's statement that

"Obamacare is the law of the land"?

Cruz is self-serving, but Boehner is AOk?

Something is very wrong here.

Cruz is really rattling the GOPe.

64 posted on 02/21/2014 2:02:29 AM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: gaijin

“This is so weird. I had long believed I could never disagree with Sowell on anything, to say noting of a matter of supreme importance.”

Ditto. I hate it.

His argument is correct IF there really is any chance that the GOP will ever make any real effort to save the country.

He seems to think there is.

I don’t see it.

Maybe I’m wrong.


65 posted on 02/21/2014 2:47:20 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Our intelligencia, it's not that they're ignorant it's that they know so much that isn't so.

I will never again vote for these fabian cuncators who refuse to win at all costs, constantly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. GOP-E majority next year? May God forbid!

66 posted on 02/21/2014 3:33:13 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: oldbrowser

This country is in the position Washington was after losing battle after battle,Ted Cruz in my opinion is the Officer who came to the aid of Washington ,I believe at Valley Forge who whipped his ragged band into a disciplined Army,not sure I think his name was Von Steuben,maybe someone can bail.me out there. But Cruz is the man


67 posted on 02/21/2014 4:23:03 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Hostage
Sowell’s tactics are to side with those (McConnell, Boehner et al.) whose strategy is to passively resist Obama’s fundamental transformation of the United States into a totalitarian state.

Like McClellan, they know there is a risk of loss in every battle and seek to minimize it. They don't seem to have a strategy at all -- so their default strategy is defensive, comprised of an endless series of retreats.

Both McCain and Romney followed this strategy right to its inevitable conclusion.

68 posted on 02/21/2014 5:40:10 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: GeronL

The Obsolete RINO Wing of the Republican Party has “Called in Rich,” and thus cannot be bothered with anymore trademark, Cave-In “Leadership.”

What we need is to force Boehner to resign as Speaker of the House in a very public manner.

Any ideas?


69 posted on 02/21/2014 5:54:14 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: P-Marlowe; gaijin; Eagles6; Colonel_Flagg; Lakeshark; Jim Robinson; onyx; Alamo-Girl

The George Washington example is not appropriate, because Sowell is comparing a start-up, ragtag army with a conservative base that was victorious under Reagan, Bush, & Bush until betrayed/misled by deceitful, liberal republicans.

He is comparing an army with no previous experience or power, a 1 or 2 on a scale of 10, with a political army that has vast previous experience and a power rating someplace around an 8. The question is “do you allow that power to degrade to a point that future victory is unlikely?”

The Dunkirk example isn’t appropriate because you are comparing a catastrophic battle position with a conservative battle position that is so vital and hopeful that the number of conservatives refusing to vote for Romney could have won it for him if he’d not been a liberal republican. The question here is “Do you withdraw from the field, lose power, and continue to alienate an entire Army group within your overall Army?”

The most crucial battle in the Civil War was Antietam. The South was ascendant after a string of victories, Robert E. Lee had pushed north, and another victory would have probably won the South the recognition of European powers. In that battle of Antietam, Lee won a tactical victory and McClellan a “strategic” one of such small consequence that Lincoln replaced him. Lincoln traded one weak general for another, Ambrose Burnside, who history records as a general with such lack of imagination that he never should have been promoted above Colonel. Burnside went from Antietam to a humiliating defeat at Fredericksburg.

The South was at its strongest, and Lee’s army, while small, could easily have been augmented by forces in the west in any continuing push north. It was a critical moment, because Lee returned to Virginia and continued retreats into Virginia simply degraded the South’s fighting ability over time until they were overpowered as the North finally found its fighting legs and its economic power began to bear down.

Recognizing the tipping point in your power is crucial. If you refuse to fight and allow your power to degrade below that tipping point, then you have doomed yourself to defeat.

We are in no Dunkirk at the moment. Social conservative power could have won the last election. It could easily win the mid-terms of 2014, but NOT with quisling liberals pretending to be conservatives. These traitors side with the enemy to promote liberalism at enough critical points that a rational conservative must use Occam’s Razor:

“They are against us because they are not on our side.”


70 posted on 02/21/2014 6:02:59 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: itsahoot
I suspect those that raise this 80% issue are amnesty pimps.

Ronald Reagan made that statement.

71 posted on 02/21/2014 6:14:42 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare is Obama's Great Leap Forward)
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To: itsahoot

The popular quote above is attributed to Ronald Reagan, along with the variant, “That person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally; not a 20 percent traitor.”


72 posted on 02/21/2014 6:16:33 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare is Obama's Great Leap Forward)
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To: P-Marlowe

There also would not have been a United States of America if the patriots in Boston had not started it all with the Boston Tea Party. Even a mind as great as Sowell’s sometimes gets it wrong.


73 posted on 02/21/2014 6:21:04 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Even a mind as great as Sowell’s sometimes gets it wrong.

Three times in three days is a disturbing pattern.

At some point you have to begin to question just how great of a mind he still has. Especially with these incredibly inappropriate historical analogies.

I expect this kind of drivel from left wing apologists, but I never expected it from Thomas Sowell.

74 posted on 02/21/2014 6:55:54 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: xzins
You're post is correct, I agree with it wholeheartedly.

I do think that Sowell has wandered off the reservation with this kind of stuff, he seems to be going bi-polar, or some kind of schizophrenic lately. I hope this phase doesn't last long. His contributions have been stellar in the past.

75 posted on 02/21/2014 6:58:00 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Lakeshark; P-Marlowe
Sowell has wandered off the reservation

I agree with that, and I fear Sowell has been suborned by a plea for the "big tent" that supposedly will give "big numbers."

Romney tried that, and it didn't work. He drove the social conservatives away, and the liberals he was trying to woo got to choose between his on-again/off-again liberal rhetoric and a real liberal named Obama.

It was a fail with both camps. He lost the social conservatives and he didn't attract the liberals.

The supposed "big tent" gave SMALLER numbers.

Wake up Professor Sowell!

76 posted on 02/21/2014 7:11:46 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
Of all people to not understand the record of (and the damage done by) the four or five senators being targeted by conservatives, Sowell seemed one of the least likely.

To think they can't be replaced by better representatives of conservative thinking during what appears to be an anti-democrat wave election is beyond silly. It's downright foolish.

77 posted on 02/21/2014 7:17:56 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: eddie willers

Yes, Sowell did indeed attack Cruz. In the first of his 3 columns on the Senator.

And Sowell is not advocating holding fire. He is advocating *falling in line* (with the RINO leadership).

I do not know why Sowell is doing this. But it makes me consider his every word suspect.


78 posted on 02/21/2014 7:27:40 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: xzins

Thank you so much for all your insights, dear brother in Christ!


79 posted on 02/21/2014 7:35:12 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: P-Marlowe
I have been reading Thomas Sowell articles on FR for over 13 years. The replies have been 100% admiring, complimentary and totally in agreement. But let Sowell mess with a FR cult of personality and we turn on him like a pack of hyenas. Suddenly he is senile. He must be suffering from dementia. The GOPe has gotten to him. He is just another RINO sell-out. Maybe he is not really a black conservative after all. And so on.

I guess that, on certain topics, there is no room for civil discourse at Free Republic.

80 posted on 02/21/2014 7:37:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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