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To: Ivan Mazepa
Tsarist and Soviet Russia have a long history of subjecting the Ukraine to Russian rule by deception, stealth and outright military violence, so I understand and empathize with Ukrainians distrust of Russia.

I do not pretend to say that the Ukraine will be where the Caliphate is formed, it will not be.

It is intended to be a wedge to prevent Russia from closing off Western Europe from Saudi group petro and natural gas energy.

Saudi money will buy the creation of the Caliphate in the Middle East unless their oil and gas are uncompetitive because of long and costly supply routes around Russian controlled Eastern Europe.

All wars are economic in nature, and you've got something that both Obama and Putin want.

I KNOW Obama will sell you out and stab you in the back, and the American media will tell the world it never happened.

I also believe you know Putin and Russia better than I do, which is not a lot.

It's up to you, may the productive Ukrainians prosper in liberty.

134 posted on 02/18/2014 8:21:12 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot; Ivan Mazepa

Unfortunately, it appears that most of of Ukraine’s major politicians are corrupt. Some are more repressive than others, however.

There is far more than the energy access “wedge” going on, though that IS part of the picture. If the US gov’t had any sanity at all, we’d push for Western European access to all the energy it needs, including from Saudi Arabia, but we would also ramp up our own and Canada’s contribution to the global energy market as much as possible, thereby depressing prices and driving down Saudi’s income.

Actually, it might not matter. Even with all the money in the world, the Muslim world is too fractured and (with modest effort on our part) too easily turned against itself for the Caliphate to ever be successfully accomplished.

Also... Obama will be gone in a few years, and maybe even (longshot) effectively neutered by 2015. With the US, the Ukraine has a chance of a halfway honest friend in a few years. With Russia, it has no such chance.

Lord, it’s late... G’night, all...


141 posted on 02/19/2014 1:44:28 AM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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