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To: DaveinOK54

The Electoral vote MUST stand.

I do thing, however, that the states should take it upon themselves to split the votes based on vote totals in the state. For instance, WI has 10 electoral votes, if the vote in WI goes 60/40 then 4 electoral votes should go to the lesser voted for candidate so as not to silence those voters.

Another interesting thought would be to give state electoral votes based on voter turn-out. WI has 10 votes, if only 40% of the people turn out to vote, we only get 4 that year.

Just some thoughts, don’t crucify me. :)


40 posted on 02/15/2014 7:41:44 AM PST by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: Nonsense Unlimited

I’d prefer that my Congressman was required to cast an EC vote for the winner of the popular vote in his district. Senatorial votes should go to the popular vote candidate also.


50 posted on 02/15/2014 8:16:48 AM PST by jch10 (John Beohner has got to be removed from the Speaker position.)
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To: Nonsense Unlimited

Any state that enacts the proportional approach on its own would reduce its own influence. This was the most telling argument that caused Colorado voters to agree with Republican Governor Owens and to reject this proposal in November 2004 by a two-to-one margin.

If the proportional approach were implemented by a state, on its own, it would have to allocate its electoral votes in whole numbers. If a current battleground state were to change its winner-take-all statute to a proportional method for awarding electoral votes, presidential candidates would pay less attention to that state because only one electoral vote would probably be at stake in the state.

If states were to ever start adopting the whole-number proportional approach on a piecemeal basis, each additional state adopting the approach would increase the influence of the remaining states and thereby would decrease the incentive of the remaining states to adopt it. Thus, a state-by-state process of adopting the whole-number proportional approach would quickly bring itself to a halt, leaving the states that adopted it with only minimal influence in presidential elections.

The proportional method also could result in third party candidates winning electoral votes that would deny either major party candidate the necessary majority vote of electors and throw the process into Congress to decide.

If the whole-number proportional approach, the only proportional option available to an individual state on its own, had been in use throughout the country in the nation’s closest recent presidential election (2000), it would not have awarded the most electoral votes to the candidate receiving the most popular votes nationwide. Instead, the result would have been a tie of 269–269 in the electoral vote, even though Al Gore led by 537,179 popular votes across the nation. The presidential election would have been thrown into Congress to decide and resulted in the election of the second-place candidate in terms of the national popular vote.

A system in which electoral votes are divided proportionally by state would not accurately reflect the nationwide popular vote and would not make every vote equal.

It would penalize states, such as Montana, that have only one U.S. Representative even though it has almost three times more population than other small states with one congressman. It would penalize fast-growing states that do not receive any increase in their number of electoral votes until after the next federal census. It would penalize states with high voter turnout (e.g., Utah, Oregon).

Moreover, the fractional proportional allocation approach, which would require a constitutional amendment, does not assure election of the winner of the nationwide popular vote. In 2000, for example, it would have resulted in the election of the second-place candidate.

A national popular vote is the way to make every person’s vote equal and matter to their candidate because it guarantees that the candidate who gets the most votes in all 50 states and DC becomes President.


81 posted on 02/15/2014 11:05:03 AM PST by mvymvy
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