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To: sickoflibs

Fair point. One caveat - a true conservative position on the Boy Scouts would depend on whether or not Boy Scouts get federal subsidies. As Walter E Williams as said, anytime an organization g ts federal subsidies, there are consequences to that and one or the consequences is that there is naturally much less freedom to operate as they want. The true conservative position on the Boy Scouts is that they would need to get rid of any and all federal subsidies and then operate as they which and exercise fully their freedom of association.


24 posted on 02/14/2014 8:30:31 PM PST by freedom462
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To: freedom462; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy
RE :”Fair point. One caveat - a true conservative position on the Boy Scouts would depend on whether or not Boy Scouts get federal subsidies. As Walter E Williams as said, anytime an organization g ts federal subsidies, there are consequences to that and one or the consequences is that there is naturally much less freedom to operate as they want. The true conservative position on the Boy Scouts is that they would need to get rid of any and all federal subsidies and then operate as they which and exercise fully their freedom of association.”

I donated to the BSs many years and respected them for standing up to gay activists.

When they changed the policy to accept gay kids but NOT adults, which affected very little, I bucked many here and decided to cut them some slack and still donate.

But when that judge forced gay marriage on Utah and those Boy Scouts came out to give free pizza to the newly married gays ON CAMERA, that one did it for me.

I always try to be reasonable but I have my own clear line. They were promoting perversion

And its really a shame. A great organization destroyed by giants.

31 posted on 02/14/2014 8:46:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: freedom462
24 Fair point. One caveat - a true conservative position on the Boy Scouts would depend on whether or not Boy Scouts get federal subsidies. ...

BSA has been attacked over the decades on this very issue. While the BSA never received grants from any federal agency directly into their national or local council operating budgets, at 1 time they did receive preferential treatment from the DoD.

SEP-OCT 1995 – Larry A. Taylor’s article, “How Your Tax Dollars Support the Boy Scouts of America”, was published in the American Humanist Association’s journal, Humanist. Taylor’s central theme was America’s obligation not to discriminate. He maintained that in a free society, a city should not provide a public service for but a portion of its citizens. The obligation of a public agency not to discriminate on the basis both of religion and sexual orientation is recognized in many communities throughout the country. He went on to provide details about how BSA programs used public/government facilities yet discriminated against homosexuals and atheists.

6/22/2005 - U.S. District Judge Blanche Manning ruled the Department of Defense (DoD) could no longer spend millions in government money to ready U.S. Army Ft. A.P. Hill (VA) for the National Boy Scout Jamboree (NSJ). The jamboree is held every 4 years and since 1981 its semi-permanent site had been Ft. A.P. Hill. The ruling stemmed from a 1999 lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Illinois that claimed the DoD sponsorship violated the First Amendment because BSA required members to swear an oath of duty to God. As a result of this ruling, 1 source claimed that ~400 Scouting units chartered on military bases were forced to transfer their charters off-post or shut down.

Penn and Teller - Boy Scouts (Full Episode) (WARNING – VERY FOUL LANGUAGE)
4/03/2006
run time = 00:29:33 minutes

The Las Vegas illusionist/entertainer team, Penn & Teller, premiered their 4th television season opening episode of “Penn & Teller: Bullshit!" The Boy Scouts”. Penn & Teller challenged the BSA for its exclusive membership policy — "no gays, no atheists, no women." They also claimed that the BSA was partially funded by tax-money and used public schools as meeting halls. Finally they claimed that since the early 1990s, BSA has been largely run by the Mormon Church.

71 posted on 02/15/2014 1:24:28 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: freedom462

How about we stop giving federal subsidies to leftist groups instead? Why does federal money only go to leftists? Why does anyone sane consider this proper?


76 posted on 02/15/2014 1:50:21 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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